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    Default Why do Christians believe God can't forgive sins?

    I was wondering why Christians believe that God was not able to forgive Adam for his sin, so he took the form of a human (Jesus) and sacrificed himself so that he can forgive humans for the sin of Adam that they never committed. I don't believe in original sin, but I was wondering why you think God is imperfect to not be able to forgive without killing himself on a cross.

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    I see u r obsessed with Christianity ok can u tell me if Muhammad flew to heaven on a winged horse ??

    edit: anyway nvm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guru View Post
    I see u r obsessed with Christianity ok can u tell me if Muhammad flew to heaven on a winged horse ??
    Easter is coming so I thought it was nice to post here on Christianity. Answer question for OP please.

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    The "Garden of Eden" represents our heavenly origin. The "snake" represents wisdom - the knowledge of good and evil. The "apple" represents our free will. Our "banishment from Eden" represents how some souls left the divine origins of heaven to explore their free will and physical reality.

    The Bible describes evil as being like a "plague" of the human soul. Evil is best understood to be an ignorance of spiritual realities. In other words, what Christians know to be sin is best understood as being mistakes from which we learn valuable lessons.

    Evil and sin are permitted to exist only because of the sovereignty of God. Otherwise, God would have destroyed it the moment it appeared. God permits human beings to make mistakes for the purpose of spiritual instruction and enlightenment. For example, Hitler was a very "evil" man: he was a "very ignorant" man when it came to spiritual realities. So there is no universal force than made Hitler "evil." Hitler made himself into a very, very ignorant person.

    Satan is own personal flaws of self-centeredness, self-gratification, self-glorification, self-consciousness, self-righteousness, self-interest and the preoccupation with SELF.

    The Bible describes the existence of a "third heaven" (2 Corinthians 12:2-4) We are actually living in the afterlife right now and our physical universe is but one of these realms in the hierarchy. So we are moving up the "ladder of success", you might say, in God's heavenly "corporation" to become permanent citizens once again in the highest heaven. The highest heaven is the eventual destiny of every human being. It is where we originated from - our true home - and where we all will eventually return.

    Love is God's paradise for humanity and we can create this paradise from heaven on earth and within us if we learn to love one another. Jesus taught people that the way to heaven is through love and that this heaven of love is within us. And because love is God, we manifest this heaven on earth when we love others. But when we refuse to love, we create a hell within us which also becomes manifested on earth. Being without love is absolute hell. But if we give love, we are already in heaven

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    You are misreading Christianity, God clearly forgives sins in the understanding of any Christian doctrine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by al-Bosni View Post
    I was wondering why Christians believe that God was not able to forgive Adam for his sin, so he took the form of a human (Jesus) and sacrificed himself so that he can forgive humans for the sin of Adam that they never committed. I don't believe in original sin, but I was wondering why you think God is imperfect to not be able to forgive without killing himself on a cross.
    It was understood that a new covenant was being made. Jesus was the metaphorical sacrificial lamb for that second covenant. You've already been caught taking words out of context in another thread and here you show the typical ignorance of Muslims about both Judaism and Christianity (which was necessary to exist for your aberration to exist). Anything that involves abstract thinking befuddles Muslims. That's understandable considering Islam is a materialistic religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    It was understood that a new covenant was being made. Jesus was the metaphorical sacrificial lamb for that second covenant. You've already been caught taking words out of context in another thread and here you show the typical ignorance of Muslims about both Judaism and Christianity. Anything that involves abstract thinking befuddles Muslims. That's understandable considering Islam is a materialistic religion.
    why the child sacrifice though? Why does God have to sacrifice his child to appease and make a second 'pact' with us?...sounds desperate. Were all other avenues exhausted or was killing His son the go-to 'reset' button?

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    Jesus can forgive sins. Why are you saying He died for us because of Adam's sins? We clearly made our own sins that He needed to die for. All Adam did was bring sin into the world but we each chose to take sin into our lives just as Adam took it. We did the same as Adam. We were no better. And sin and wrong doing needs punishment...or does that not work in human terms either? Because I think parents punish their kids if they do wrong and after an apology and whatnot the punishment is over. Well same in this case. We crossed God and chose sin so we are destined for punishment unless we repent and accept the way back to restore what we did wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UkrainianGirl View Post
    Jesus can forgive sins. Why are you saying He died for us because of Adam's sins? We clearly made our own sins that He needed to die for. All Adam did was bring sin into the world but we each chose to take sin into our lives just as Adam took it. We did the same as Adam. We were no better. And sin amd wrong doing needs punishment...or does that not work in human terms either? Because I think parents punish their kids if they do wrong and after an apology and whatnot the punishment is over. Well same in this case. We crossed God and chose sin so we are destined for punishment unless we repent and accept the way back to restore what we did wrong.
    Parents dont offer to crucify their innocent children as a gesture of 'forgiveness' though...that would be seen as criminal

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