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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    The weakness of le pen is her economic programm.
    But on immigration and foreign affair she is pretty good.
    Le Pen is literally a National Socialist, pretty much Staßerimus lite, in a lot of ways.

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    We already opened a thread about it in the french section but where we also discuss in english, no problem :

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...i-voterez-vous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    We are in state of emergency due to islam.
    What let you think democracy is eroding?
    How they were about to bypass Parliament to push through Labor reforms. How the police can do pretty much whatever they want. I see videos of them harassing Muslims Democracy is suppose to protect the weak and minorities especially at a time like now when terrorism is becoming more of an issue you need Muslims to help combat it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    How they were about to bypass Parliament to push through Labor reforms. How the police can do pretty much whatever they want. I see videos of them harassing Muslims Democracy is suppose to protect the weak and minorities especially at a time like now when terrorism is becoming more of an issue you need Muslims to help combat it.
    What have you seen exactly? That story about that guy being raped by the police? It turned out it was the dealers he was trying to protect who did it just before he got arrested. He was also an expert in funds embezzelement, him and all his family. Im sure that part didn't make the headlines (neither here...), the story went from being all over the news to a total media shutdown all of a sudden, nobody talks about it anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    What have you seen exactly? That story about that guy being raped by the police? It turned out it was the dealers he was trying to protect who did it just before he got arrested. He was also an expert in funds embezzelement, him and all his family. Im sure that part didn't make the headlines (neither here...), the story went from being all over the news to a total media shutdown all of a sudden, nobody talks about it anymore.
    A country that has Police walking the streets with Machine Guns looks a bit like a Police state to me. Is this not the case in France? Maybe I am wrong correct me if I am. But the State of Emergency gives extra powers to the government if I am not mistaken. The government hates to give up power. The USA is having the same issues also, it is not just France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekarotuinen View Post
    Le Pen is literally a National Socialist, pretty much Staßerimus lite, in a lot of ways.
    She's not a Nazi, she's not even Viktor Orbán. She's nonetheless a right-wing populist, and a threat to the future of France, Europe, its stability and its geopolitical balance. The famous Roman national ("National Novel" in over-laudatory terms) is a now a fiction. More than ever, France is a small country living interconnected with Europe, the Mediterranean and the entire world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    A country that has Police walking the streets with Machine Guns looks a bit like a Police state to me. Is this not the case in France? Maybe I am wrong correct me if I am. But the State of Emergency gives extra powers to the government if I am not mistaken. The government hates to give up power. The USA is having the same issues also, it is not just France.
    I ve never seen that, you have a few military on patrol at strategic points, airport, train stations and churches mostly, that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    I ve never seen that, you have a few military on patrol at strategic points, airport, train stations and churches mostly, that's all.
    I am very wary when people give up rights to the government for safety reasons. This is dangerous and can lead to bad things. In the USA we interned Japanese Americans in camps in WWII it is something that can happen everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    How they were about to bypass Parliament to push through Labor reforms. How the police can do pretty much whatever they want. I see videos of them harassing Muslims Democracy is suppose to protect the weak and minorities especially at a time like now when terrorism is becoming more of an issue you need Muslims to help combat it.
    As much as I want to show you some respect, you don't make it very easy for me. You are very far from any understanding of what's going on in Europe. Yet you talk like some kind of expert.

    Muslims aren't weak, nor should they be protected. You make no sense. They are government's little pets and their soldiers at the same time. You haven't distinguished between the problem and the good cause. You sound just like the most extreme leftists of Europe, if not worse still.

    The French are suffering government initiatives which mean onslaughts of foreigners and an invasion unlike any previous event in history (experienced also by my own nation), and you think it's important that the invaders get some kind of positive affirmation to combat themselves. It sounds like it. You make no sense, as I said. And you are clearly on the wrong side, completely opposed to what's good for European nations and persons.
    Pigs can fly... in your face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthropos View Post
    As much as I want to show you some respect, you don't make it very easy for me. You are very far from any understanding of what's going on in Europe. Yet you talk like some kind of expert.

    Muslims aren't weak, nor should they be protected. You make no sense. They are government's little pets and their soldiers at the same time. You haven't distinguished between the problem and the good cause. You sound just like the most extreme leftists of Europe, if not worse still.

    The French are suffering government initiatives which mean onslaughts of foreigners and an invasion unlike any previous event in history (experienced also by my own nation), and you think it's important that the invaders get some kind of positive affirmation to combat themselves. It sounds like it. You make no sense, as I said. And you are clearly on the wrong side, completely opposed to what's good for European nations and persons.
    Excuse me the United States is the ultimate country for dealing with terrorism and immigration as we are a major target. We have Muslims and all kinds of people here and we try to make the country work to the best that we can with the issues we have. We are good at integration and we are proud of that,,, Muslims and foreigners ultimately become our American brothers and sisters. Yes we have our issues but we all our one people,,White,Brown, Black or Orange or whatever. September 11th 2001 was an extremely frightening day for us as we were targeted but we have Muslims that are as American as Apple Pie and that a good thing.

    I read the news and see what is going on in Europe with high unemployment, economic malaise along with immigration issues.

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