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R1b1c (R-V88) and R1b1a1 (R-M73) were they spread by Caucasians
Okay, so apparently it seems both are Caucasian male origin no doubt, R1b marker is found highest in Europe.... however the problem is that it's subclades exists in non-Caucasian people.
R1b1c (R-V88) expanded to Africa 7000 years ago and they carry frequencies of 52% - 91% among the Chadic speaking people of Cameroon and they look the blackest you can get, some may have Caucasian look to it but that's it, this same marker is found in low frequencies in Algerian berbers and Northern Egyptians, among Berbers from Siwa is 28% is also found low frequencies in some berber groups. Did these R-V88 markers already existed in North Africa or was this the result of expansion to North Africa from Central Africa?
And if they did, would they have already looked these
According to racial anthropology Bashkir Tatars were already mixed 5000 years ago, only recent Mongolian haplogroup C3 and O3 markers ( 2 -16% ) can be considered recent Mongoloid admixture but their mongoloid phenotypes was increased only slightly by 1-3% which is barely nothing, they carry high frequencies markers of R1b1a1 (R-M73) which is 13.5 to 55%. However they found 32% of Hazara in Pakistan with such marker, four out of 523 Turkish or 0.76% and 2 Russians out of 2 hundreds samples have R-M73, both which are low frequencies. The Bashkir Tatars are about 38% Mongoloid racially on average and with ranging 25 - 75%.
Same question, did they already looked like this when they expanded these markers to Turkey, Pakistan, Russia or did they existed already in them and has nothing to do with these Baskir Tatars?
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Originally Posted by Allenson
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