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    Quote Originally Posted by frankhammer View Post
    Germany is the standard you slackers should be emulating. Instead you hide behind bureaucracy and shortened the work week, then gave yourselves more holidays.

    And interfering in a nations affairs is what the EU is about. Turkey got to experience that firsthand without even joining.
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    One party(CHP) ruled Turkey for 15 years in the leadership of Atatürk, Atatürk ruled country with an Iron Hand until his death, Turkey was a republic as a name

    in those years(1923-1950) but not a democracy, Title is wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin von Ossetien View Post
    What for? If constantinople and turkish trace belonged to Greece from now on, greeks would become a minority in their own country(City of Istambul alone has 14 mil people, Greece have 10.5)
    There's nothing to gain from such conflict, only to lose.
    What for?

    For Satisfaction of Historical Justice.

    There were two eyes of European civilization once; Rome and Constantinople, now we have Rome only, and now without Constantinople when fell 1453 it was like someone came and cut off one eye from that European Civilizational skull.

    Constantinople is not just a city, it is a Holy city for not only us Christians, but for entire Romano-Greek & European civilization on which Europe is based upon (European civilization is based upon Ancient Rome and Greece, and now we have only Rome, we want Constantinople as well, justice has to be served).

    Israelis saw their chance to bring back Jerusalem into Israel, and I support that, Jerusalem is their Holy city, primary theirs.

    Just like Constantinople is Orthodox Holy City.

    To us Catholics Rome is Holy city, but we cannot overlook Constantinople, we cannot forget it nevermind we're Catholics.

    "Two eyes" on "skull" of European civilization will be there again, nevermind when, nevermind how... Constantinople will be Constantinople again, and Hagia Sophia will be CHURCH AGAIN, the WONDER of Byzantine & Christian Architecture.

    No offence to Turks here, even they know whose city that is, when they walk every day trough old city in Constantinople, when they walk on those old streets, when they see those old Walls, they know those streets, walls, old city etc are Romano-Greek streets, walls and city.

    And no one will ever forget that, we sure won't .

    And now Europe (including Russia) have perfect alibi to do that in next decades, perfect alibi now when Turkey went back to Ottoman state of mind again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robocop View Post
    What for?

    For Satisfaction of Historical Justice.

    There were two eyes of European civilization once; Rome and Constantinople, now we have Rome only, and now without Constantinople when fell 1453 it was like someone came and cut off one eye from that European Civilizational skull.

    Constantinople is not just a city, it is a Holy city for not only us Christians, but for entire Romano-Greek & European civilization on which Europe is based upon (European civilization is based upon Ancient Rome and Greece, and now we have only Rome, we want Constantinople as well, justice has to be served).

    Israelis saw their chance to bring back Jerusalem into Israel, and I support that, Jerusalem is their Holy city, primary theirs.

    Just like Constantinople is Orthodox Holy City.

    To us Catholics Rome is Holy city, but we cannot overlook Constantinople, we cannot forget it nevermind we're Catholics.

    "Two eyes" on "skull" of European civilization will be there again, nevermind when, nevermind how... Constantinople will be Constantinople again, and Hagia Sophia will be CHURCH AGAIN, the WONDER of Byzantine & Christian Architecture.

    No offence to Turks here, even they know whose city that is, when they walk every day trough old city in Constantinople, when they walk on those old streets, when they see those old Walls, they know those streets, walls, old city etc are Romano-Greek streets, walls and city.

    And no one will ever forget that, we sure won't . Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guru View Post
    Do u speak latin ??
    I can understand it, learned Latin on College.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robocop View Post
    I can understand it, learned Latin on College.
    But u dont speak it everyday why ?? wherever u live in Croatia it is not Croatian but rightfully and historcially just, Roman

    It's not catholic it is not yours unless u start to worship Jupiter and Juno lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guru View Post
    But u dont speak it everyday why ?? wherever u live in Croatia it is not Croatian but rightfully and historcially just, Roman
    Croatian ppl are under Roman-Catholic Church, there is no power of govermont in Croatia which would be stronger than will of Vatican, this is totally true.

    I don't know about other Catholics, but this is true for Croatia, what Vatican says our ppl listen.

    So no need for Romans when we are under Roman-Catholic Church, totally, so it comes to the same thing. We are Secular only on paper, but when shits hits the fan you can ask anyone here how secular we are.

    To Croats, Vatican is of same importance as Croatia, that's how always was, it will always be like that .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robocop View Post
    Croatian ppl are under Roman-Catholic Church, there is no power of govermont in Croatia which would be stronger than will of Vatican, this is totally true.

    I don't know about other Catholics, but this is true for Croatia, what Vatican says our ppl listen.

    So no need for Romans when we are under Roman-Catholic Church, totally, so it comes to the same thing. We are Secular only on paper, but when shits hits the fan you can ask anyone here how secular we are.

    To Croats, Vatican is of same importance as Croatia, that's how always was, it will always be like that .
    Sry I added something bout religion to my previous post

    Btw ppl of Vatican are not Romans come on u know what I mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guru View Post
    Sry I added something bout religion to my previous post

    Btw ppl of Vatican are not Romans come on u know what I mean
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