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    Okay, this is getting ridiculous. This thread keeps on being deleted. I wonder by whom? Please find a copy of the previous (second version of this) thread cached here. This version has my original links if you're interested.

    This is my third-attempt.

    It's also interesting that my Jewish-Looking Nazi thread keeps being deleted too. Quite a coincidence.


    My question arose from my Jewish-Looking Nazi thread here which shows a large percentage of Nazis certainly "looked Jewish" something that is odd for such a supposedly anti-Jewish racially-conscious ideology where one would assume being of Jewish origin &/or looking Jewish would be an impediment for advancement yet so many of these Jewish-looking Nazis were decorated & celebrated. Then again, as Hermann Goering -of rumoured Jewish descent himself & with a half-Jewish half-brother- infamously declared, "I decide who is a Jew."

    Could Frankism explain why so many high-ranking Nazis were of proven part-Jewish heritage; such as General Helmut Wilberg, Generalfeldmarschall Erhard Milch & Admiral Bernhard Rogge with Bryan Rigg proving in his book Hitler's Jewish Soldiers: The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military at least 77 high-ranking Nazis were of partial Jewish origin including two generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals, and 23 colonels. With the number of high-ranking Nazis with rumoured Jewish ancestry including basically every top Nazi including famously Hitler himself, Goebbels, Goering, Rosenberg & Heydrich. We also now have reports Hitler's wife, Eva Braun, was of Jewish origin.

    Does this theory help to understand why?

    Frankism was founded in the 18th century by Jacob Frank (real name Jacob Lejbowicz). It should be pointed out that the original Frankists were no longer Jews except ethnically. If anything they were anti-Jews opposed to literally everything Judaism stands for & sworn to its destruction. Although they began as Jewish, part of the Sabbatean sect, Frankists were excommunicated by Jews & converted en masse to Christianity in Poland in the early 18th century. This gave them the ability to integrate surreptitiously, intermarry -or simply assimilate- into Prussian, Polish & Germany society. So did some of their descendants, at least, become Nazis?

    We must also note that this question is not entirely original. Many have posed it in various forms before but usually "conspiracy theorists" written off as "nuts" by the mainstream. Most though have done so to attack Jews or Zionism. Is this what the Frankists want? The genius of this strategy -if this theory is true- is that Jews will automatically reject the premise as "anti-semitic" forgetting that Frankists were no longer Jews, while Jew-haters will also not distinguish between Jews and Frankists, thus blaming all Jews for Frankists.

    So who were the Frankists & why would they possibly seek the annihilation of European Jewry?

    Frankism is an even more extreme version of Sabbateanism that taught;

    "...all laws and teachings will fall and following antinomianism asserted that one's most important personal obligation of every person was the transgression of every boundary."

    Sabbateanism believes in redemption through sin in which all Jewish taboos should be broken. Surely the greatest taboo would be murder?

    Netanel Lederberg claims that Frank had a Gnostic philosophy wherein there was a "true God" whose existence was hidden by a "false God". This "true God" could allegedly only be revealed through a total destruction of the social and religious structures created by the "false God", thus leading to a thorough antinomianism.

    Was this total destruction the destruction of the European Jews who had rejected, shunned and excommunicated them?

    Hitler's lawyer, the appropriately named -& Jewish-looking- Hans Frank (presumably no relation to Jacob), reported in the Nuremberg trials that Hitler ordered an investigation into his (Hitler's) ancestry due to his father's illegitimacy which concluded that Hitler's real grandfather was a Jew called Frankenberger (or possibly Frankenreiter) who paid Hitler's grandmother child support. DNA evidence does not rule this out with Hitler belonging to the often-Jewish E1b1b1 (E-M35) YDNA haplogroup. Was Frank's "Frankenberger" perhaps an allegory for Hitler's Frankism?

    In any case, there is something very odd about Hitler's entry into politics, with Hitler initially a government agent hired to spy on the proto-Nazi party, from Wikipedia;

    In July 1919 he was appointed Verbindungsmann (intelligence agent) of an Aufklärungskommando (reconnaissance commando) of the Reichswehr, assigned to influence other soldiers and to infiltrate the German Workers' Party (DAP)... At the DAP, Hitler met Dietrich Eckart, one of the party's founders and a member of the occult Thule Society.

    Was the Thule Society a Frankist front? Some conspiracy theorists believe so. Who was a leading member of the Thule society? Why Hans Frank himself.

    Another point that is that Aryan status meant proving no Jewish ancestry for three generations. Since the Frankists converted in the 18th century this would mean that their descendants could all prove no official Jewish heritage even if every grandparent was a genetically Jewish Frankist.

    The other question to research is how many Jews became Frankists during the 19th and 20th centuries, if any?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    Okay, this is getting ridiculous. This thread keeps on being deleted. I wonder by whom? Please find a copy of the previous (second version of this) thread cached here. This version has my original links if you're interested.
    A mod must be a Frankist Jew.

    Hitler's real grandfather was a Jew called Frankenberger (or possibly Frankenreiter) who paid Hitler's grandmother child support. DNA evidence does not rule this out with Hitler belonging to the often-Jewish E1b1b1 (E-M35) YDNA haplogroup. Was Frank's "Frankenberger" perhaps an allegory for Hitler's Frankism?
    There was no Jewish Frankenberger in the area where Hitler's father was born. In fact, Jews were banned from living in that area in the time his father was born. The uncomfortable secret about Hitler's background was that he was inbred. His parents were closely related cousins (1st or second cousins; I can't recall which). They had to ask special permission from the church to marry. He also had a sister that was mentally handicap (obviously more likely if the parents are closely related). He also had obvious Czech ancestry (Novak surname shows up in his family tree only a couple of generations back). The area had quite a bit of Czech influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    A mod must be a Frankist Jew.



    There was no Jewish Frankenberger in the area where Hitler's father was born. In fact, Jews were banned from living in that area in the time his father was born. The uncomfortable secret about Hitler's background was that he was inbred. His parents were closely related cousins (1st or second cousins; I can't recall which). They had to ask special permission from the church to marry. He also had a sister that was mentally handicap (obviously more likely if the parents are closely related). He also had obvious Czech ancestry (Novak surname shows up in his family tree only a couple of generations back). The area had quite a bit of Czech influence.
    I wouldn't rule out he had Jewish either, though.

    Also, I didn't know he had Czech in him. Quite interesting..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    A mod must be a Frankist Jew.



    There was no Jewish Frankenberger in the area where Hitler's father was born. In fact, Jews were banned from living in that area in the time his father was born. The uncomfortable secret about Hitler's background was that he was inbred. His parents were closely related cousins (1st or second cousins; I can't recall which). They had to ask special permission from the church to marry. He also had a sister that was mentally handicap (obviously more likely if the parents are closely related). He also had obvious Czech ancestry (Novak surname shows up in his family tree only a couple of generations back). The area had quite a bit of Czech influence.
    I've read that before but don't forget Frankists weren't Jews officially even if of Jewish ethnicity.
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    It's quite weird that Hitler, whose real name might be a form of "Frank," put someone called Frank in charge of finding Jewish ancestry that I believe was really of Frankists (named after someone called Frank [which denoted him, Jacob, as a Yiddish/German-speaking foreigner in the Ottoman Empire]).
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    Well, I suppose you could make the argument that they were, but the much more likely scenario is that they were just extremely anti-semitic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    He also had obvious Czech ancestry (Novak surname shows up in his family tree only a couple of generations back).


    How he can have a Novak ascendant in Family Tree?

    He could have it on in Table of Ascendats. IT IS NOT FAMILY TREE

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    You always are trying to prove the Nazis were pro-Zionist or associated with Jews while Sir Rethel does the same but with Poles and Slavs.

    Not saying I disagree with you, but there has to be substantiating evidence.

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