Have you found any previously unknown relatives thanks to DNA tests?

[Peterski]

THERE around the 50 til 60 you see my orange painted chromosomes ? is that orange italian as well ? if so we match there in "orange" chromosomes probably. WTF a pole and a norman/septimanian sharing from one italian ancestor ??

LOL. I even score 1% Italian in DNA Land. And in K36 I get 6% "Italian" (and 12% "North_Sea").

These admixtures are based on Northern and Central Italians (Tuscans) by the way. From DNA Land:

South/Central European

Includes: Italian/Bergamo, Italian/Tuscan and Toscani in (Bergamo, Tuscany and 1 other site) Italy

[Ilma]

LOL. I even score 1% Italian in DNA Land. And in K36 I get 6% "Italian" (and 12% "North_Sea").

These admixtures are based on Northern and Central Italians (Tuscans) by the way. From DNA Land:

Thank you btw, that's funny Well I have 0,9% italian according to 23andme maybe some Casanova latin lover who travelled a lot in Europe from France to Poland

What test did you used to compare the chromosomes ? I wanna check it with Tchek please

[Peterski]

Michał Milewski from FTDNA stuff told me how many segments he shares with his relatives.

Sharing on FTDNA (total cM / largest cM) and sharing on GEDmatch (total cM / largest cM):

Parent-child:

3384 / 267 and 3584.7 / 297.5

Uncle-nephew:

1718 / 121 and 1841.7 / 127

First-degree cousins:

1146 / 84 and 1216 / 72.7*
1037 / 95 and 1093.1 / 95.7**
840 / 62 and 896.4 / 62.6

First-degree cousins once removed:

680 / 57 and 712 / 57.1*
583 / 88 and 603.9 / 91**
383 / 34 and 396.1 / 35.2

Second-degree cousins:

220 / 33 and 198.8 / 33

Second-degree cousins once removed:

169 / 40 and 161.6 / 39
163 / 28 and 160.5 / 25.6*

Third-degree cousins:

91 / 18 and 94.4 / 18.5*

Third-degree cousins once removed:

115 / 33 and 71 / 31.1**
29 / 11 and 12.7 / 12.7

* - also additionally related through another (more distant) line of ancestry
** - probably also additionally related through another (more distant?) line

[Peterski]

I guess that over 100 total cM and over 10 largest cM can be cousins.

But they can be also unrelated people from very similar ethnic groups?

Edit:

This can also be useful: https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_statistics



Edit:

More about it: http://cryokidconfessions.blogspot.c...bers-game.html

Parent/child: 3539-3748 centimorgans (cMs)
1st cousins: 548-1034 cMs
1st cousins once removed: 248-638 cMs
2nd cousins: 101-378 cMs
2nd cousins once removed: 43-191 cMs
3rd cousins: 43-ca 150 cMs
3rd cousins once removed: 11.5-99 cMs
4th and more distant cousins: 5-ca 50 cMs

[Peterski]

What test did you used to compare the chromosomes ? I wanna check it with Tchek please

I used this (and Eurogenes K36 calculator):



Not sure how reliable this is. In some calculators "Chromosome Painting" gives me admixtures which don't show up in "Admixture Proportions", which is weird (or maybe some colors are too similar & confusing).

[Peterski]

By the way - literally all native Europeans are at least something like 16th cousins to each other. Maybe even closer than 16th cousins, especially if they are from the same ethnic group. People don't share much more of DNA in common with their distant cousins than with any random person from their ethnic group.

[Rethel]

16th cousins

A po ludzku?

[frankhammer]

.39% and 2 segments to a 4th/5th cousin on 23andme is the best I've come across.

[Peterski]

Comparing Kit Enflamme and Litvin:

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 500 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 250 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM

Spoiler!

Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 88,365,638 90,885,357 2.5 573
1 168,251,070 169,695,897 1.5 543
1 207,301,380 210,165,083 2.9 734
2 56,068,020 59,155,076 2.2 746
2 142,411,868 144,996,256 2.4 509
5 101,872,677 105,237,520 2.2 610
5 148,680,144 150,490,426 4.1 620
8 17,602,799 18,474,149 1.9 515
8 33,089,049 37,300,668 2.2 503
8 52,116,994 55,305,803 3.8 646
8 77,852,892 81,969,653 2.1 715
9 128,350,175 130,963,859 3.8 545
11 103,451,371 106,261,906 1.5 520
12 20,743,588 21,907,035 1.9 633
12 39,534,200 41,589,236 1.4 538
15 72,491,641 75,869,833 1.8 523
18 28,411,147 31,240,598 1.9 500
19 40,738,797 43,994,998 2.0 634
20 43,378,372 44,787,398 1.7 500

Largest segment = 4.1 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 43.8 cM
19 matching segments

670330 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.03787 seconds.
Ver: Apr 21 2017 12:02:17

Enflamme how much of Polish ancestry do you have?

BTW - both kits are from FTDNA (starting with a T...).

[Ilma]

Comparing Kit Enflamme and Litvin:

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 500 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 250 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM

Spoiler!

Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 88,365,638 90,885,357 2.5 573
1 168,251,070 169,695,897 1.5 543
1 207,301,380 210,165,083 2.9 734
2 56,068,020 59,155,076 2.2 746
2 142,411,868 144,996,256 2.4 509
5 101,872,677 105,237,520 2.2 610
5 148,680,144 150,490,426 4.1 620
8 17,602,799 18,474,149 1.9 515
8 33,089,049 37,300,668 2.2 503
8 52,116,994 55,305,803 3.8 646
8 77,852,892 81,969,653 2.1 715
9 128,350,175 130,963,859 3.8 545
11 103,451,371 106,261,906 1.5 520
12 20,743,588 21,907,035 1.9 633
12 39,534,200 41,589,236 1.4 538
15 72,491,641 75,869,833 1.8 523
18 28,411,147 31,240,598 1.9 500
19 40,738,797 43,994,998 2.0 634
20 43,378,372 44,787,398 1.7 500

Largest segment = 4.1 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 43.8 cM
19 matching segments

670330 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.03787 seconds.
Ver: Apr 21 2017 12:02:17

Enflamme how much of Polish ancestry do you have?

BTW - both kits are from FTDNA (starting with a T...).

This makes more sense since he has some attested polish ancestry Funny you matched ! He's my neighboor (Normandy - Picardy are border neighboors totally) and we share nothing