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Thread: Trump outraged South Koreans by saying Korea used to be part of China. Is he right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jingorex View Post
    nothing you said here really matters in relation to the topic.

    Trump was correct. China was balls deep in the Korean peninsula, fact.
    You and me we two know he said that because he wants China occupies NK and solve a problem without spill for US. So he means in fact: Chinks Invade NK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    You and me we two know he said that because he wants China occupies NK and solve a problem without spill for US. So he means in fact: Chinks Invade NK.
    http://www.timemaps.com/history/china-30bc



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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    Koreans descend from Koguryeo, they are clear-cut non-Chinese by almost all aspects. Chinese occupied parts of NK in history is meaningless. It's like I say Hungary and South Slovakia should be Turkey's because once upon a time we occupied it and incorporated. Korea closer to Japan than China, north East Asians different than East Asians.
    China absorbed many other nations in history. Early on in its history, Korea was a Chinese province and going through the same process of assimilation as many other regions that were eventually absorbed into China.

    And why do you bring Turkey into every conversation? You're fucking annoying. No one gives two fucks about Turkey, its a mediocre, irrelevant country.

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    Yeah, probably. Whatever. Korea is like an appendix hanging off of geographical China. They're a different ethnic group in the region, but obviously they are related, as the shape of their eyes, head and skin colour would suggest. That doesn't mean Korea belongs to the so-called People's Republic of China, though. I wish that shithole would do the world a favour and fuck up and die. I have nothing against China itself, but a new China needs to be born. Every time I read the words "Made in China" on value-added goods it gives me the bloody pip!

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    Korea was a dependent and very rarely parts of it were supposedly under Han commanderies. Honestly , Koreans are thinned-skinned, but the Chinese believe even Philippines is part of China because Cantonese merchants went there. I don't think Jinping said that anyways.

    Korea was more directly part of Japan from 1910-1945 than it ever was under China. China was a protector and guarantor of Korea's sovereignty in the same way USA and China currently are. The Chinese vassal system is not a 1 for 1 analog to what we think of as Empire in the modern western sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scholarios View Post
    Korea was a dependent and very rarely parts of it were supposedly under Han commanderies. Honestly , Koreans are thinned-skinned, but the Chinese believe even Philippines is part of China because Cantonese merchants went there. I don't think Jinping said that anyways.

    Korea was more directly part of Japan from 1910-1945 than it ever was under China. China was a protector and guarantor of Korea's sovereignty in the same way USA and China currently are. The Chinese vassal system is not a 1 for 1 analog to what we think of as Empire in the modern western sense.
    For the most part true, regarding the sovereignty, but for a period during the Han Dynasty, Korea was ruled as a provincial territory. But for the vast majority of Sino-Korean relations, Korea was a vassal state.

    Chinese people do not claim the Philippines as ever being part of China.

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    The reason Koreans are outraged are they are fiercely loyal to S. Korea and nationalistic. The sense of nationalism was rooted into their independence from Japan during the colonial period. I obatined some information from my Korean friend and on the Internet.

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    Just give nukes to South Korea, that'll solve the problem. THAAD does nothing for South Korea, but giving it nukes is a different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goujian View Post
    Just give nukes to South Korea, that'll solve the problem. THAAD does nothing for South Korea, but giving it nukes is a different story.
    China`s doublde-standard regarding korean penisula has costed patience of the world, while China vigorously warns against THAAD destabilizing regional security in threatening tones, China has never endeavored to stop NK from developing strategic nuclear weapons and missiles. Given the history that NK attacked SK preemptively in 1950,the anticipation of another preemptive attack from NK is not off the ground. HOW can someone say just give SK the nukes as chinese government claims THAAD, a defensive deployment is their concern of destabilization? Your statement here is a perfect portrayal of hypocrisy of chinese communism government in criticizing, warning against THAAD system.

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    The West always tries to appease them in an attempt to boast about their diplomatic power, but it always leads to war in the end. It is a common sense that communists are not to be trusted, they are soulless zombies possessed by all the vices. The world has come into a grey area where good and evil are obscured by reality, it is truly in danger of a great war. My will is simple, I do not want a war. I urge the West to take all actions to rein in the two eastern monsters, it is the time to test your ideological values, your meaning of existence.

    Sadly I must admit that stupidity of chinese communist bureaucrats are the foremost cause of this danger, however, I must also blame their international friends which have been encouraging their stupidity, never have offered a dose of sedation to their rabid psychology.

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