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    Josef Mengele – the Creation of a Myth

    By Germar Rudolf

    May I ask my dear reader whether he or she recognizes any of the following names:

    Fritz Klein, Heinz Thilo, Bruno Kitt, Erwin von Helmersen, Werner Rohde, Hellmuth Vetter, Horst Schumann, Carl Clauberg, Hans Wilhelm König, Franz Lucas, Alfred Trzebinski, Oskar Dienstbach, Siegfried Schwela, Franz von Bodmann, Kurt Uhlenbroock, Eduard Wirths, Hans Münch, Johann Paul Kremer, Horst Fischer, Friedrich Entress?

    Unless you’re an expert in the field, you probably have no clue who these people are. The only name I would recognize, if I were to turn off my expert knowledge, is Clauberg, and that only because that was the name of my high-school art teacher (first name unknown).

    All the men listed above were at some point or other SS physicians at the infamous Auschwitz Camp.[1]

    I omitted one name from the list, and that for a good reason, because that name would give it all away:

    POUR UNE HISTOIRE DÉBARRASSÉE DES NOMBREUX MENSONGES
    Vincent Reynouard: Je suis ingénieur chimiste et historien révisionniste français. J’expose de la façon la plus pédagogique possible les arguments révisionnistes. Je propose, j’expose, je n’impose rien. Chacun doit (ou devrait) être libre de se faire une opinion sur le sujet. .


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    Reposting my deleted posts from this thread: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...new-Dr-Mengele.

    Mengele actually studied physical anthropology, and he was responsible for taxonomical classification at the Frankfurt Institute (http://libgen.lc/index.php?req=menge...ng+angel+death):

    In September 1937, as an indication of his growing status as a young scientist with a promising future, Mengele attended the ninth meeting of the German Society for Physical Anthropology in Tübingen.

    ...

    He performs particularly valuable services in the genetic and racial assessments in connection with ancestry examinations, with his anthropological training serving him well here. ...

    While at the Frankfurt Institute, Mengele placed his scientific knowledge at the disposal of the state by preparing so-called Gutachten, or expert opinions, for the RGO and the health courts, which had been created to enforce the various racial and eugenic laws designed to implement the Nazi worldview and to protect and "improve" the German race.[7] Mengele worked with Verschuer in conducting examinations and rendering professional judgments about an individual's paternity and "racial acceptability." Historian Sheila Faith Weiss examined 120 opinions rendered during Verschuer's tenure for which the examiner might be identifed; she found that Mengele prepared far more than the three other assistants at the institute - and that his judgment was more often than not beneficial to the person being examined, finding that the individual was not a "full Jew" more than two-thirds of the time.

    ...

    Mengele's examination included, where possible, a comparison of twelve different areas, including blood type and factors, eyes and eyebrows, as well as finger- and footprints.

    In order for Mengele to marry his wife, the SS required her to undergo a physical evaluation which involved taxonomical classification:

    As a racial elite, the SS had a significant interest in whom its members decided to marry, and it established an entire bureaucracy to evaluate and sanction prospective unions. A raft of paperwork was required, as was a medical examination proving the absence of congenital diseases and, above all, the capability to bear children; for the SS, marriage meant two people of racial quality procreating. The entire enterprise was, in many ways, a state-sponsored human breeding program.[14] ...

    The day after Christmas 1938, Irene had a physical examination in Frankfurt, performed by Dr. Schwarzweller, an SS physician. One section of the form called for an inventory of ten physical characteristics, with a list of associated values in descending order of desirability. For instance, for "Body Type," the physician could choose "muscular (athletic), plump, slim, or puny," with the first clearly being the most positive. For eye color, the following choices were available: "blue, gray, greenish, light brown, and dark brown." These physical attributes, thought to be expressions of the racial mixture that the person represented, were observed and noted. In Irene's case, Dr. Schwarzweller awarded her nine out of ten of the attributes with the highest value, and only one, "hair form," as the second highest: "sleek," which was one step down from "straight" but better than "wavy, curly, or crinkly." The combination of these features led Schwarzweller to conclude that Irene was primarily of the Nordic race with some Dinaric influences. She was found to be in excellent health and, perhaps of key significance, likely to be able to bear children, noting her "wide pelvis."[17]

    Mengele was basically an anthrotard:

    Inmate artist Dina Gottlieb, whom Mengele enlisted to paint portraits of his Gypsy research subjects, described Mengele's intense focus on them and suggested a possible explanation:

    > He showed me the differences between types of Gypsies: how in the Aryan type the hairline matched the line of the eyes, how the blue of the Gypsies' eyes was different from the Aryans' blue, and which color was deepest. He was using these experiments to gather material for a book on the physical similarities and characteristics of Gypsies from different countries. He talked about it constantly.
    He used books and charts when working on his test subjects. He had templates to work out their eye and skin color, which he'd hold up to make a reading. One of his descriptions for the shape of someone's lips was the letter, M.

    ...

    Mengele made it clear that he was ultimately interested in all types of twins. It was obvious that the special circumstances of a concentration camp the size of Birkenau offered unrivaled opportunities for the availability of a large number of twins. In other words, work should be done on a large scale in order to obtain results of recognized validity by statistical methods. Mengele described to me the procedures to be followed. Especially skull measurements should be taken, i.e., the length and width of the skull, and, of course, stature. There was also a multi-point screening scheme which, for example, included the shape of the ears, of the nose, color of the eyes and similar features. These values always had to be collected by means of a questionnaire. Mengele also provided me with measuring instruments, in particular, calipers.

    I was given a special room for my work, and an inmate girl was provided to me to record the results of the measurements. While working, I had to wear a white lab coat like a doctor's. There was also a former anthropology student available, who had already taken measurements with the gypsies before I began my work. So we worked together for the measurements. We measured practically every day.

    Orthodox historiography about Mengele is based on the testimony of false eyewitnesses like Miklos Nyiszli (https://inconvenienthistory.com/5/4/3223):

    At this point, the Polish researcher unveils her "decisive witness": none other than the notorious impostor Miklos Nyiszli!

    ...

    Notwithstanding the absurd lies he told, this person is nonetheless held in high esteem by orthodox historians, but, in a sort of veiled schizophrenia, only as regards his accusations against Dr. Mengele. And in fact, his testimony constitutes the "demonstrative" framework for the accusations of every book on the subject, starting with Gerald L. Posner and John Ware on Dr. Mengele,[22] one of the most important, also mentioned by H. Kubica. The two authors cite him on pages 19, 20, 26, 33, 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 53 and 152. In fact, the entire chapter on the "crimes" of Dr. Mengele at Auschwitz is built upon Nyiszli's "testimony"! Even Robert Jay Lifton mentions him repeatedly.[23] H. Kubica cites him just as often.

    ...

    Miklos Nyiszli wrote a memoir published in Hungarian in 1946 entitled _Dr. Mengele boncolóorvosa voltam az auschwitz-i krematóriumban_ (_I Was Dr. Mengele’s Anatomical Physician in the Auschwitz Crematorium_.)[49]

    ...

    Nyiszli provides a completely invented history of the Birkenau crematoria, even stating that they were built during the winter of 1939-1940, when Auschwitz didn't even exist yet.

    His description of the furnaces of Crematoria II and III (which he refers to as 1 and 2) is also completely afactual. He speaks, in fact, of 15 individual furnaces located in a room 150 metres long, while the actual room in question was only 30 metres long, equipped with five furnaces, each with three muffles.

    The alleged gas chamber, a room (Leichenkeller 1) 30 metres long, becomes, for Nyiszli, 200 metres long [but no width given]; Nyiszli also describes an "adjacent room" which never existed.

    The small freight elevator (Aufzug) located in the vestibule of the subterranean part of the crematorium is transformed, in Nyiszli's narrative, into four powerful lifts.

    What Nyiszli says about the crematory capacity of the cremation furnaces is technically impossible and historically nonsensical. He speaks of the cremation of 3 bodies in 20 minutes in one muffle, in each of the 15 muffles of Crematoria II and III, corresponding to a theoretical capacity of 3,240 bodies in 24 hours, which, for Nyiszli, however, becomes, incomprehensibly, 5,000. Therefore, according to him, the total capacity of the four Birkenau crematoria was 20,000 bodies per day. All this is absurd: in the coke-fired Topf furnaces of Auschwitz-Birkenau, 20 minutes would not even have sufficed to vaporise the water contained in a single body. The real capacity of such installations, as declared by Topf engineer Kurt Prüfer, who designed the furnaces, and Karl Schultze, who designed the blowers, was one single body per muffle per hour, or one ninth as much as asserted by "eyewitness" Nyiszli.

    Moreover, while Crematoria II and III had a total of 30 muffles, Crematoria IV and V had only 16, but Nyiszli nevertheless attributes a capacity of 5,000 bodies per day each to this pair of crematoria as well. Therefore, one single muffle in Crematoria IV-V had almost double the capacity of the same muffle in Crematoria II-III, but, according to Holocaust historiography, the furnaces in Crematoria IV and V were less efficient than those in Crematoria II and III. For example, at the Höss trial, the expert Roman Dawidowski stated that a load of 3-5 bodies in one muffle burned in 20-30 minutes in Crematoria II-III, but in 30-40 minutes in Crematoria IV-V.[54] It goes without saying that Dawidowski's "expert opinion" has the same value as the Polish-Soviet "expert opinion" on the 4 million deaths, in which he himself, Dawidowski, likewise concurred.[55]

    Based on the absurd cremation capacity of 5,000 bodies in 24 hours for each crematorium, Nyiszli has built an arithmetically fantastic history of the mass gassings. Here are a few examples:

    - The inmates in Sector BIId, 10,500 people, according to Nyiszli, were gassed and cremated in a single day in Crematoria III and IV (= 5,250 bodies in 24 hours each). In reality, even with a theoretical continuous duty cycle of 24 hours per day (which in practice is unattainable),[56] these installations would have required at least 19 days for the cremation of such a large number of bodies.
    - 4,500 gypsies were gassed and cremated in one single night in Crematoria II and III, that is, 2,250 in 12 hours. This many cremations would in fact have required over six days.
    - The 20,000 gassing victims from the ghetto of Theresienstadt were cremated in 48 hours in Crematoria II and III (= 5,000 bodies in 24 hours each). In actual fact, that many cremations would have required over 27 days.
    - Nyiszli claims that flames could often be seen shooting from the crematory chimneys, which is technically impossible.[57]

    The gassing technique described by Nyiszli is completely invented, based on the erroneous supposition that Zyklon B (the alleged homicidal agent) was chlorine (rather than hydrocyanic acid). Since chlorine is heavier than air,[58] Nyiszli imagined that, in an area in which it was released in large quantities, the chlorine would spread from the floor to the ceiling, as if the area were being filled with water. As a result, he claims that the bodies, in the "gas chamber", "were piled up in a mass up to the ceiling", because "the gas first fills the lowers strata of air and then moves slowly upwards". The victims therefore climbed on each others' shoulders to get closer to the ceiling and escape the gas so as to survive for a short time longer. But hydrocyanic acid vapours are slightly lighter than air,[59] therefore the diffusion of the gas as described by Nyiszli is physically impossible.[60]

    This absurdity was later appropriated lock, stock and barrel by the plagiarist Filip Müller, another self-described "eyewitness" who shamelessly plagiarized Nyiszli's work.[61]

    In a letter to the American translator of his memoirs, Nyiszli declared that he had discovered that the name "cyklon" (sic) was derived from the abbreviation of its principal ingredients: CYanid, ChLOr and Nitrogen, stating that there were two types of "cyklon", Type A, which was an insecticide, and Type B, which was used for the homicidal gassings. This is another stupid fantasy. "Zyklon" in German is not an acronym, but, rather, an ordinary word meaning "cyclone". And not only did Zyklon B not contain chlorine, but the German word for nitrogen is "Stickstoff"!

    As for Zyklon A, use of this product was discontinued in Germany in the 1920s, when it was superseded by Zyklon B.

    Nyiszli mentions eight extermination operations in the alleged gas chamber and in the vicinity of the "cremation pits", at which he claims to have been personally present. Adding up the number of victims indicated by Nyiszli, we obtain a total of 605,000 persons, but he claims to have personally seen two million people enter the "gas chambers" with his own eyes. But in fact, near the "cremation pits", the final destination for the "excess numbers from the Jewish ramp," that is, those for whom there was no room in the over-filled gas chambers, 650,000 Jews were, according to him, killed with a bullet in the back of the neck, which is to say, more than the total of all the gassing victims, for the excess numbers of whom the "cremation pits" were supposed to have been dug in the first place.

    Based on the data provided by this "eyewitness", we get over 30 million people, all cremated in these "cremation pits" alone!

    Nyiszli's chronology is purely fictitious, as deduced from the numerous contradictions it contains. For example, if we follow the orthodox narrative, the presumed homicidal mass gassings ceased definitively on 17 November 1944, but for Nyiszli, 20,000 Jews from the ghetto of Theresienstadt were gassed, starting on that date.

    One day in August, Nyiszli met his wife and daughter in Sector BIIc, but this meeting took place after the gassing of the gypsy camp (BIIe), which, for Nyiszli, occurred in the last ten days of September. What is more, according to his chronology, this meeting occurred in combination with that of Camp BIIc, and yet there was an interval of at least 26 days between the two alleged events.

    Nyiszli moreover claims that the crematoria were located two kilometers from the Birkenau Camp, while in reality they were located inside the camp, and that the so-called Kanada warehouse barracks was not the Effektenlager (the camp warehouse containing the personal effects of the inmates), but, rather, a collection of rubbish which burned continuously!

    In addition, Nyiszli knew nothing of the alleged "Bunker 2": according to him, this Polish farmhouse was not transformed into a homicidal gas chamber by the SS, but, rather, into an "undressing room" for the victims of the "cremation pits", who were then killed with a pistol shot to the back of the neck.

    ...

    Provan writes:

    > "Although Dr. Nyiszli was sent as a witness at the IG-Farben trial at Nuremberg, he did not testify, probably because he was only at Monowitz for two weeks and could only supply information of little value. He was allowed to return to Romania during the course of the same trial."[64]

    In effect, the IG-Farben trial records contain no mention of Miklos Nyiszli being excused; he is not even mentioned.[65] Notwithstanding the simple fact that he never testified, upon returning to Romania, he immediately proceeded to write a series of articles entitled Tanu voltam Nürnbergen (I Was a Witness at Nuremberg) in which he pretended to have been interrogated by the Soviet representative of the defendant Emanuel Minskoff, quoting whole dialogues entirely invented by Nyiszli. The first of these mendacious articles appeared in the Világ newspaper on 18 April 1948.

    According to the article by Carlo Mattogno linked above, Mengela's studies basically just consisted of anthrotardism:

    After creating the school already mentioned above, Dr. Mengele created an "experimental laboratory," the location where the "camp research on the birth of twins and congenital anomalies"[11] was performed - in a word, the ogre's lair - to the head of which he appointed Dr. Bertold Epstein, from Prague. His assistant was another Czech, Dr. Rudolf Weiskopf (Vitek).[12] Two camp inmates also worked in Dr. Mengele's laboratory: a Polish anthropology Ph.D., Martyna Puzina,[13] and the Czech painter Dinah Gottliebova, who produced drawings of the parts of the body of the children under examination.[14]

    The activities of this "experimental laboratory" are well documented:

    > "The archives of the Auschwitz-Birkenau Museum contain numerous documents signed by Dr. Mengele, such as requests for analysis by the Institute of Hygiene."[15]

    but no document attests to Dr. Mengele's presumed crimes. This is not at all surprising, considering the activities performed in his laboratory:

    > "As shown by reports of inmates who performed tasks in the twins block, as well as reports from the twins themselves, the individual pairs of twins were subjected by Dr. Mengele to research of any kind, which constituted the starting point for the performance of the most varied types of experiments on the same. In general, they were subjected to anthropometric, morphological, psychiatric and radiological research. The anthropological research was initially performed in Dr. Mengele's laboratory in the sauna of the gypsy camp. In November 1944, this laboratory was transferred to barracks 15, in the vicinity of the men's hospital (BIIf). Every individual part of the body of the persons subjected to examination was measured in the most accurate manner: the twins were measured in pairs, comparing the results. The documentation contained annotations of the shape of the mouth, the nose, the muscles of the ears, the colour of the eyes and skin of the individual parts of the body.[16]

    There was no criminal activity, therefore, and it is easy to see what M. Puzyna and D. Gottliebova's tasks consisted of: anthropometrical studies and anatomical drawings.

    From Carlo Mattogno's book "An Auschwitz Doctor's Eyewitness Account - The Tall Tales of Dr. Mengele's Assistant Analyzed" (http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=37):

    Mengele was not "a race biologist" (Chapter XV), but an anthropologist. His duties at Auschwitz were summarized by the SS garisson physician Dr. Wirths in an "Evaluation of SS Hauptsturmführer (of the reserve) Dr. Josef Mengele born on March 16, 1911" dated 19 August 1944:[342]

    > "SS Hauptsturmführer Dr. Josef Mengele serves his duty at the office of the SS garrison physician Auschwitz, since May 30, 1943 [...]
    >
    > During his acitivities at Auschwitz Concentration Camp, he has applied his knowledge practically and theoretically as a camp doctor during the fight against severe epidemics. With circumspection, perseverance and vigor, he has fulfilled all the tasks assigned to him often under the most difficult conditions to the complete satisfaction of his superiors and has shown himself capable of coping with every situation. In addition, as an anthropologist, he has eagerly used the short time off-duty at his disposal to educate himself, and has made a valuable contribution with his work by evaluating the scientific material of anthropological science made accessible to him by his office. His achievements are therefore to be described as excellent. [...]
    >
    > In the most conscientious fulfillment of his duty as a physician, he contracted typhus during the combat against epidemics in Auschwitz. Due to his special achievements, he was awarded the War Merit Cross II. Cl[ass]. w/Sw[ords].
    >
    > In addition to his medical knowledge, Dr. M[engele]. has special knowledge as an anthropologist. He appears to be suitable for any other assignment and also for the next higher assignment."

    From this document it appears that Mengele's main job was camp physician, and as such he distinguished himself in the fight against epidemics. He performed his activity as an anthropologist in his spare time (!), hence without a specific superior directive.

    From the documents on Mengele reproduced by Kubica in the article mentioned earlier, it is evident that he performed his anthropological activity only in vivo, as Nyiszli would say, namely research in the areas of anthropometry (pp. 388, 393) and clinical psychiatry (p. 392). The documentation also includes analyses of x-ray images, urine and blood samples taken from inmates (pp. 394f.), a clinical record (pp. 398f.), as well as patient charts with temperature curves (pp. 400-402). He was also involved in research on the noma epidemic raging in the Gypsy camp, as is demonstrated by him sending the head of a 12-year-old boy to the Hygienic-Bacteriological Research Institute of the Waffen SS Southeast (Hygienisch-Bakteriologische Untersuchungsstelle der Waffen-SS, Südost) for histological examination (p. 394). The sender was the "Inmate Infirmary Gypsy Camp Auschwitz II, BIIe" ("Häftlingskrankenbau Zigeunerlager Auschwitz II, BIIe"). Noma, which spread among the children in this camp sector, is a disease that develops in the mouth and destroys the face, which is why it is also called noma facies.

    Mengele also continued the research of Karen Magnussen, who had earlier studied some of the gypsy twins that were sent to Auschwitz (http://libgen.lc/index.php?req=menge...ng+angel+death):

    Although he did put chemical drops in prisoners' eyes, he was not trying to Aryanize them, and his eye-related work at Auschwitz did include the "harvesting" of eyes from children with a particular condition and shipping them to the KWI-A in Berlin.

    Both of these activities were carried out in collaboration with Dr. Karen Magnussen.... In October 1944 she announced that she was finishing work on a paper about the "histology of total heterochromia in humans," a study that benefited significantly from Mengele's presence in Auschwitz.[65]

    After Mengele's return to Berlin in January 1943 from active duty on the Russian front, he was able to familiarize himself with the current research and personalities at the institute. During a visit there, he met Magnussen and learned of the project she had undertaken. As part of her research, she was examining a cluster of heterochromia in a single Sinti family. The family of Otto Mechlau had been brought to her attention by a colleague at the KWI-A, Georg Wagner, who worked in criminal biology and had written his dissertation on "Race-Biological Observations on Gypsies and Gypsy Twins."[66] The family was of particular interest not only because of its high incidence of heterochromia but also because it included several pairs of twins. The family offered a significant research opportunity for Magnussen as well, since the family members were interned nearby in the Zigeunerlager (Gypsy camp) in Marzahn, where she had access to them, could examine family members, and obtain a comprehensive family history.[67]

    Although Magnussen was able to photograph the eyes of one set of twins, her research was dealt a blow in March 1943, when the entire Mechlau clan was deported to Auschwitz, as part of the massive deportation of Gypsies from the Greater Reich carried out by the Nazis beginning in December 1942. The internment of the family in Auschwitz, she claimed, severely complicated her work, indeed made it "nearly impossible," and only the "serendipitous transfer" of Mengele to Auschwitz as physician saved the situation. In her May 1949 denazification interrogation, she explained that her research was only "possible through the assistance of Dr. Mengele," who "enabled me to clarify inheritance" by "determining the eye color and establishing the relationships among the members of the family."[68] She wrote to Viktor Schwartz (who had been an associate of her Doktorvater, Alfred Kühn) that Mengele had "compiled the genealogy of the family and recorded the physical attributes precisely."[69] Mengele also prepared a genealogical chart of the Mechlau family for Magnussen.[70] "Mengele's work on Magnussen's behalf - the careful research and recording of family history - was similar to his work in his own dissertation, in which he had identified and described a physical anomaly and its frequency and occurrence in relevant family histories and genealogy.

    Magnussen claims that she learned from Mengele that members of the family had contracted pulmonary tuberculosis, and she asked him to send her the autopsy reports and the "eye material" should anyone in the family die.[71] Only the dissection and laboratory analysis of the eye itself would yield the histological data necessary for her research. In her postwar statements, she suggested that her request for the eyes was predicated on the natural deaths of the subjects. Writing to Schwartz in 1949, she asked, "In cases of death should I thus dispense with the histological analysis of the unique, abnormal material just because the people happened to die in the camp?"[72] In her decidedly disingenuous May 1949 denazification interrogation, she said:

    > "From the impression I gained from medical histories and from Mengele's very responsible and humanely decent attitude toward his interned patients and colleagues (he told me that he hoped to have one of the Polish female physicians, who was interned at Auschwitz, join the institute as a colleague after the war), the idea never occurred to me that anything could occur in Auschwitz that violated state, medical, or human laws.[73]"

    (The book above was written by an orthodox historian, so when someone tells the truth, they have to describe it as "decidedly disingenuous".)

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    A reason why Mengele took blood samples of inmates was that he provided them to German researchers who tested a method to detect the race of humans based on protein structure. I'm quoting from the same book by as in my previous post (http://libgen.lc/index.php?req=menge...ng+angel+death). It was written by a mainstream historian, but it contains wartime quotations from Mengele's colleagues, which is a more reliable form of evidence than post-war testimony by alleged eyewitnesses:

    "According to Abderhalden, every individual, every family, every race, and every species possesses a unique biochemical signature that arises out of the protein structure."[88] Abderhalden maintained that on the basis of the "defense enzyme," he had developed a uniquely precise method to ascertain specific differences between, but also similarities among, the proteins of different organisms.[89]" In 1939 Abderhalden published the results of animal studies that proved, he claimed, that his "test" could identify the race of individual sheep and pigs, and he sought to extend his research to human beings - specifically, twins.

    ...

    Abderhalden had written to Verschuer in 1940 to inquire about the possibility of testing the Abderhalden reaction on the blood of identical twins. Verschuer responded that, given the war's significant impact on the availability of suitable twins for study, not to mention medical assistants, who had been called to military service, Abderhalden's proposed research would have to wait until after the war.[90] But Verschuer was clearly intrigued by the prospect of working with Abderhalden and applying his technique to address the important challenge facing racial biology, namely the development of a reliable "race test." Mengele's assignment to Auschwitz appears to have given Verschuer the opportunity to take on the project despite his earlier demurral,91 as it effectively removed the barriers to Abderhalden's proposed research.

    In May, around the time of Mengele's transfer, Verschuer sent one of his medical technicians, Irmgard Haase, to Halle for three months to learn the Abderhalden technique from Abderhalden himself.92 Historian Bernd Gausemeier suggests that the project had three related aims. First, it sought to discover a biochemical basis for racial identification, the methods employed up to that point having relied on physical characteristics and anthropometric comparisons involving, among other things, the shape of the skull and the color of hair, eyes, and skin. Second, the method promised to provide an unambiguous means of distinguishing between fraternal and identical twins, a fundamental challenge for twin research. Finally, Verschuer hoped to discover a new basis for determining paternity and related ancestral questions, which occupied a great deal of his time and that of other experts at his institute.[93]

    Verschuer's second progress report to the German Research Foundation, covering the period October 1943 through March 1944, described Mengele's role in the project:

    > New difficulties occurred in testing this method, which have been resolved in consultation with Abderhalden. Rabbit series are being screened to trace animals suited for the test devoid of spontaneously produced enzymes. My assistant Dr. med. and Dr. phil. Mengele has entered this branch of research as a staff member. He is on post as _Hauptsturmführer_ [SS captain] and Physician in Auschwitz concentration camp. Authorized by the _Reichsführer-SS_, anthropological tests are being carried out in the diverse racial groups of this concentration camp and the blood samples are delivered to my laboratory.[94]"

    Verschuer's third and final report, from October 1944, detailed the extent of Mengele's work:

    > This research has been further advanced. Blood samples of more than 200 people of most diverse racial provenience have been processed and blood plasma substrates produced. Further research will be continued with Dr. Hellman, staff member of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Biochemistry. Dr. Hellman is a biochemical expert on protein research. With his aid the original Abderhalden method has been perfected, so that the actual rabbit test can henceforth begin.[95]

    Although not specified, it is clear that Mengele collected these two hundred samples from inmates in Auschwitz. An extremely important aspect of his effort in collecting the samples would have been the careful description of the "provenance" of each sample - details relating to the individual from whom the blood was taken - using anthropological terminology.

    ...

    Achim Trunk has deduced how the experiment would have been conducted. A blood sample from Auschwitz would have been converted into a protein substrate - or substance upon which an enzyme acts - and injected under the skin of a laboratory rabbit. Abderhalden's theory held that the rabbit would then produce a "defense enzyme," to be found in its urine, in response. A solution of the produced defense enzyme would then be "laced with the injected protein and another with substrates" produced by other Auschwitz blood samples.[96] The theory held that the enzyme solution would degrade the injected protein effectively, while it would degrade the other substrates only to the extent that they were similar to the first one. Trunk summarized, "The corresponding formula was this: the stronger the substrate degradation, the bigger the chemical similarity of the proteins and thus the genetic affinity of the individuals from whom the blood was taken.

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    Mengele's autobiography has not been published, but a set of his writing that were said to include his autobiography were placed on auction in 2011 (https://codoh.com/library/document/m...-auctioned/en/). In the book "Mengele: The Complete Story" by Posner and Ware, there are quotations which are claimed to be excerpts from Mengele's autobiography and letters (http://libgen.lc/index.php?req=mengele+posner+ware). I thought that these were interesting:

    In his autobiography Mengele recalls his impressions of the Nazi movement and the strong attraction it held for him:

    > The students of the university, those who had already reached the voting age, had contributed to this [Nazi] success. I was not then old enough to vote. My political leanings then were, I think for reasons of family tradition, national conservative. . . . I had not joined any political organization. Though indeed I was strongly attracted by the program and the whole organization of the National Socialists. But for the time being I remained an unorganized private person. But in the long run it was impossible to stend aside in these politically stirring times, should our Fatherland not succumb to the Marxist-Bolshevik attack. This simple political concept finally became the decisive factor in my life.

    ---

    Mengele took his mind off matters by playing mental games. In a menacing echo from the past, he revealed in his autobiography how he used to perform "scientific selection" on the potato crop:

    > One had to take a scientific approach to sort out the edible, fodder, and seed potatoes. The frequency of the various sizes followed the binomial distribution according to the Gauss Diagram. The medium sizes therefore are the most plentiful, and the very small ones and the very big ones are much less frequent. But since they [the Fischers] wanted more medium-sized potatoes I moved the border of the selection for the potatoes for consumption accordingly and in this way I obtained more potatoes for consumption than usual. In this way my mind was kept active.[21]

    ---

    One passage justifying to Vieland the existence of concentration camps is especially revealing:

    > It is necessary for each country to have an institution in case of war, where it can keep elements who are of any danger to the country, foreigners who are assumed to be saboteurs, worthless people, willing to do espionage, prostitutes, Gypsies and people who are criminals by profession.
    >
    > They [Jews] belonged to the group of possible enemies of the country who one had to be assured of . . . because of their internationality, their worldwide organization, their connection even to enemy countries and their intelligence service. . . . This fact alone would be enough to take the measure like the _konzentration_.
    >
    > When the top leaders of this international organization, the Jewish World Congress, officially declares war on the Deutsches Reich, then there is no need to discuss the right to collect and
    > keep the Jews in camps. . . . Hitler warned Jews in his speech in 1939 not to stir up the people with war against Germany, that it could end up badly for them.[34]

    In another of his fictional autobiographical conversations with Vieland, Mengele (as "Andreas") even defended the conditions discovered in the concentration camp at the end of the war:

    > _Vieland_: Recently I saw in Munich a film about the concentration camps. It seems that there were terrible conditions there. Even if one disregards the scenes which are not authentic and may have come from newsreels from mass Allied bombings of German towns, the movie shows nevertheless, without leaving any doubts, that people lived and also died there under catastrophic conditions of malnutrition.
    >
    > _Andreas_: Yes, that was probably the case. [Andreas really doesn't want to say anything more about the subject but he finally asks Doctor Vieland,] When do you believe these movies were made?
    >
    > _Vieland_: I assume after the occupation of the camp by the Allies.
    >
    > _Andreas_: Certainly not earlier. And thus you get only information about the conditions that existed at the time the movie was made, or maybe several weeks or months before that, during which the last throes of the war were being staged. Every person who lived through this catastrophe knows the insurmountable difficulties in providing provisions which were prevalent during the last months of the war. The camps necessarily suffered to an extremely great degree under the chaos of the debacle of the collapse. And it was that that led to the conditions as they were shown in this movie.

    ---

    Of his other cell mates, including an Englishman, only an Italian submarine commander, a Fascist like himself, was worth the time of day. "His words," wrote Mengele, "came truly from the soul of a National Socialist, a man who spoke contemptuously of the Communist rabble as the sewerage of the big towns that now controlled Italy."[13]

    ---

    Mengele soon had another source of anguish. By August, detailed stories about his crimes were appearing in the German press. A batch of magazine and newspaper reports were delivered to him by a friend he called "Don C," who landed at a private airstrip near the Krugs' farm. "All of a sudden I heard the sound of an engine. . . it was the arrival of 'Don C,'" Mengele wrote on August 15. "He had taken the chance to come by. We spent a nice Sunday afternoon and talked about the painful event and many personal questions."

    That night Mengele read through the press reports, "which fascinated me until deep into the night." He went to bed deeply disturbed. Jews, he was sure, were behind the "lies" blackening his name:

    > It is unbelievable what is allowed to be slanderously written in German magazines. The magazines are the illustrated proof of the lack of character and lack of proper attitude of the current German government, that tolerates such self-defilement. The political lie triumphs and time and history have been warped and bowed. It drips of "humanitarianism and Christianity," and in this "God" is the most often quoted. Behind all this stands only one thing: that is all the Old Testament hate toward everything in the German consciousness, heroic and truly superior.

    ---

    Most of Mengele's invective was directed at postwar Germany, which he saw as the real villain in Eichmann's fate:

    > The event which I learned of days later didn't surprise me, but I was deeply affected. One is tempted to draw comparisons, then one drops it again because one is startled by the reality of the path of history over the last 2000 years. His people have betrayed him miserably. As a human this has been the most difficult and upsetting part. Herein lies the core of the problem of the case! One day the German people will be very ashamed of themselves! Otherwise they will never feel shame.[36]

    ---

    Through the years, Gitta became an intellectual punching bag for Mengele. Usually she was the only audience for his interminable lectures on evolution, philosophy, morality, and housekeeping budgets. The decadence and decline of West Germany was a favorite theme: "The new stratum of leaders in Germany is made up for the most part of traitors, separatists, deserters, rats and clerical shady characters," Mengele wrote in his diary.[1]

    ---

    "Time and again," Mengele wrote, "I find consolation with Goethe, Weinheber, Morike, Rilke, Novalis and all the others. Because of them it's worth being German."[4]

    ---

    Mengele could not, however, resist an anthropological inquisition about his future daughter-in-law, even on the basis of one photograph:

    > From the little photograph I could deduce some "anthropological" facts and make some psychological deductions. She can be classified as one of those pretty, dark, gentle, lovable, and surely good-tempered and hardworking young ladies from your hometown.[7]

    ---

    It was clear to Rolf from the self-righteous tone in one of his father's letters that he would not tolerate close scrutiny of the dark secrets of his past:

    > On the one hand I cannot hope for your understanding and compassion for my life's course; on the other I do not have the minutest inner desire to justify or even excuse any decisions, actions or behavior regarding my life. . . . When it comes to indisputable traditional values, where I sense danger to those close to me or to the unity of my people, my tolerance has its limits.[1]

    It's funny how when Mengele received a photo of his future daughter-in-law, he immediately thought about anthropologically classifying her. Also it's funny what the Jews who wrote the book described as a "menacing echo from the past".

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    I searched for wartime news stories of Mengele: https://www.newspapers.com/search/#q...year=1940-1945. I found only one story, which was published in multiple papers on May 3rd or May 4th in 1945:



    The next story I found was from 1946. It says that Izella Pearl killed 3,000 babies, but there's only 119 hits for `"izella pearl"` on Google, and most of the results shown by Google are just random genealogical records or obituaries or something, and none of them seems to refer to this lady. (What kind of a Hungarian name is Izella Pearl anyway?)



    There were only 3 hits for the search phrase `mengele auschwitz` from 1947-1959: https://www.newspapers.com/search/#q...year=1947-1959. After that Mengele re-entered the headlines only in the year 1960.

    The current mainstream historiography about Mengele is largely based on the testimony of the phony eyewitness Miklós Nyiszli. Even though Nyiszli's book was first published in Hungarian in 1946, it was only translated to English in 1960 and to French in 1961. So it seems that it was only in the 60s or 70s when the Jews created the Holocaust industry that the character of Mengele became more widely known.

    Even the term Holocaust was not popularized until around the year 1970, when it became necessary to create the Holocaust industry, as the Jew Steve Pieczenik explained in a YouTube video in 2019 (where he also said that hundreds of thousands of Jews were killed in the Holocaust) (https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=12133):

    Now why was the Holocaust important? Because in 1968 when Israel fought the Six-Day War, they realized that no-one would be interested in Israel _qua_ Israel, so they created an industry which in fact developed the story and the concept of the Holocaust. I'm not denying that my family was killed in the Holocaust, and that hundreds of thousands of Jews, Christians, and others were killed. What I'm saying is that there was an industry manufactured by the Israelis, so that America could support Israel to the tune of four billion dollars a year, over ten years - and twenty years - that's about eighty to a hundred billion dollars. Let me quote Simon Wiesenthal, who said the following: "During the Holocaust, God was absent." And Nat [sic; should probably be Norman] Finkelstein said, "Without the 1968 Six-Day War, we would not have considered the Holocaust."
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    Komintisavala writes "every country needs camps for enemies criminals and gypsies" I notice gypsies are on there simply because they are gypsies they didn't commit a crime or fought against the country
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    Oh, actually "Izella Pearl" was probably a misspelling of "Gisella Perl" (https://carolynyeager.net/making-mon...mengele-legend):

    In 1948, International Universities Press, a publisher mainly of Freudian literature, published Jewish gynecologist Gisella Perl's I was a Doctor in Auschwitz. This seems to be by far the earliest publication of any accusation against Mengele [Komi: Except Nyiszli's book was published in Hungarian in 1946, Mengele was mentioned in Regina Bialyk's affidavit during the Belsen trial in 1945, Mengele was mentioned in a newspaper story about Perl from 1946, and Mengele was mentioned in another newspaper story from 1945 about the 15-year-old Czech boy Jenda Weiss.].
    [...]
    Perl's accusations seem not to have had much influence when her book first appeared. 1948 was the beginning of the Cold War, so that efforts to perpetuate anti-German propaganda at this time were out of step with the prevailing mood in the United States.
    Mengele was not initially wanted as a war-criminal. The first time that Mengele's name appeared in the New York Times was 19 June 1960, during the show-trial of Adolf Eichmann.
    It was also in 1960 that Miklos Nyiszli's ostensible memoir, Auschwitz: A Doctor's Eyewitness Account, appeared [or was translated to English - Komi], claiming that the author had been Mengele's assistant.
    [...]
    German Wikipedia says:
    > [...] Mengele first entered the narrower focus of criminal prosecutors in the early 1960s in the course of the testimonies for the Auschwitz Trials [in Frankfurt]. Previously he had already lived under his own name several years in Argentina without being disturbed.
    Interest in Mengele subsided again, and was not put into high gear until the mid-1970s, in the period following the resignation of Richard Nixon, when the Jewish cultural revolution in the United States had triumphed. The renewed effort to demonize Mengele started with William Goldman's Marathon Man in 1974, featuring a villain that was supposed to resemble Mengele vaguely, followed by Ira Levin's The Boys From Brazil, which outrageously uses Mengele's name.
    There are signs of a tendency from the mid-1970s until 1985, with the extraordinary demonological status that was given to Mengele through novels and movies in that period, to exaggerate the man's importance retroactively.

    I confirmed that in the archives of the New York Times, the first result that matched the word Mengele was from 1960: https://www.nytimes.com/search?endDa...&query=mengele.
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    On Google Books, I found only a few books from before 1960 which mentioned Mengele: https://www.google.com/search?q=jose...-01-01&tbm=bks. One of them was a book from 1949 about the Belsen trial:



    The last excerpt in the image above is from the affidavit of Regina Bialek. It has a number of imaginative features, such as that there were an underground gas chamber at Auschwitz, where a truck was able to drive straight into the chamber. She also said that gas entered the gas chamber "from the centre point on the floor" (in case it meant that there was a hole on the floor, then couldn't it have been blocked?). The effects of gassing she describes don't match the symptoms of cyanide poisoning. She also said that some people were killed in a villa in the camp where gas bombs were thrown through the window (http://www.bergenbelsen.co.uk/pages/...03_Bialek.html):

    On 25th December, 1943, I was sick with typhus and was picked out at a selection made by Doctors Mengele and Tauber along with about 350 other women. I was made to undress and taken by lorry to a gas chamber. There were seven gas chambers at Auschwitz. This particular one was underground and the lorry was able to run down the slope and straight into the chamber. Here we were tipped unceremoniously on the floor. The room was about 12 yards square and small lights on the wall dimly illuminated it. When the room was full a hissing sound was heard coming from the centre point on the floor and gas came into the room. After what seemed about ten minutes some of the victims began to bite their hands and foam at the mouth and blood issued from their ears, eyes and mouth, and their faces went blue. I suffered from all these symptoms, together with a tight feeling at the throat. I was half conscious when my number was called out by Dr. Mengele and I was led from the chamber. I attribute my escape to the fact that the daughter of a friend of mine who was an Aryan and a doctor at Auschwitz had seen me being transported to the chamber and had told her mother, who immediately appealed to Dr. Mengele. Apparently be realised that as a political prisoner I was of more value alive than dead, and I was released.
    [...]
    I was told that the staffs of the prisoners who worked in the gas chamber and crematorium next door changed every three months, the old staff being taken to a villa in the camp to do some repair work. Here they were locked in the rooms and gas bombs thrown through the window.

    Here's Carlo Mattogno's comments about the testimony (http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=41):

    There were seven gas chambers, and the one into which the witness was allegedly led was underground, but a truck was able to unload its human cargo directly into this basement room by means of a ramp. The surface area of the chamber was "12 yards square," which corresponds to about 10 square meters: a little small for such an operation (alternatively, this could refer to 12 × 12 yards, hence some 120 m2). There is no need of Crematoria II and III were in the basement, but measured 210 square meters, and above all, did not have an access ramp for the delivery of persons or anything else by truck.
    The gas entered "from the centre point on the floor" hissing; it was therefore already in the gaseous state and delivered under pressure. The symptoms of hydrogen-cyanide poisoning described are quite imaginary and all wrong: the victims bit their hands (according to the Hungarian witness, author of the report dated August 26, 1945, the victims bit their own fingers off, and their bodies "were found lacking fingers"), they foamed at the mouth and bled from the ears, eyes, and mouth, while their faces turned blue.
    The story of how she was saved is simply crazy: Dr. Mengele entered the gas chamber, without a gas mask, because he called the inmate's number so loud that she could hear it and was thus saved! [Komi: I think the testimony doesn't actually imply that Mengele personally entered the gas chamber, and it was not specified if the person who entered the gas chamber was wearing protective equipment like a gas mask]
    The story of the presumed killing of the "Sonderkommando" at the beginning of December 1942, which was obviously circulating in various versions, takes place in a villa: the killing was performed by means of "gas bombs thrown through the window"!

    Regina Bialek belongs to the special class of Shoah survivor who managed to escape from a gas chamber (https://revblog.codoh.com/2009/06/ho...en-easier-way/):

    In _Smith's Report #149_ (April 2008) I published an article called "_Experto Crede_, or How to Escape from a Homicidal Gas Chamber", devoted to a special category of Shoah survivors: those resourceful Jewish fellows who saw one of the fabled Nazi homicidal gas chambers from the inside, and then escaped from it to tell their story. To achieve this feat is to reach one step above people like Arnold Friedman, who survived a gassing in Flossenburg(!) by the means of breathing through a key hole. Auschwitz eyewitnesses Sophia Litwinska and Regina Bialek were both saved in the nick of time when SS men opened the chamber (in the middle of the gassing process) to take them (and no-one else) out of there; needless to say, they were invaluable to the Germans in some way or an other and therefore spared to tell the world of their remarkable experiences. Majdanek witness Mary Seidenwurm Wrzos survived a death chamber in a similar, albeit more cunning fashion: when the gas began streaming in through "three large black holes" she started banging on the door, screaming that she was a German guard. Finally, men in gas masks opened the door and pulled her out. Curiously, she was not sent back to the gas chamber or otherwise punished once the Germans had discovered that she was not one of them... Another Majdanek inmate, Mietek Grocher, simply sneaked out through the still open gas chamber door while the (single!) guard was looking another way and then dodged a hail of bullets from pursuing Germans.

    However, I have recently found out that there are recorded cases of even more cunning gas chamber escapes. Unfortunately we don't have any names, but we know that there were more than one of them, and that they were female (clearly not ladies prone to panic and hysterics but levelheaded and very resourceful members of the fair sex). In her book Den Livsfarliga Glömskan ("The Fatal Forgetfulness", Brombergs, Stockholm 1986) Inga Gottfarb, a Swedish-Jewish writer and Zionist activist (an active member of the Swedish Committee Against Anti-Semitism) quotes from a report sent by her to the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee in New York "in mid-May 1945" concerning the reception of female former concentration camp inmates in the Swedish city of Malmö on April 29 the same year (pp. 162-163):

    «Många hade varit i Auschwitz, hade "gasnummer" intatuerade på sina armar. Några hade lyckats ta sig ut ur gaskammaren genom ett fönster».

    Translation:

    «Many had been in Auschwitz and had "gas numbers" tattooed on their arms. Some had managed to escape from the gas chamber through a window».

    Can it really get more clever than this? Or should I expect to one day find a story of a successful gas chamber lock picker? As H.L. Mencken (or possibly the great hoaxter P.T. Barnum) once said, "no-one ever got poor underestimating human stupidity".

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    I now also transcribed the text of the oldest articles about Mengele I found on Newspapers.com. I was only able to check articles that were available under the cheaper membership tier, but I think there were a few more articles from 1945 that were available under the more expensive membership tier. The articles from 1945 and 1946 were both attributed to a "United Press Staff Correspondent", and they were also published in other newspapers.

    I think these articles have been overlooked by revisionists, because when I tried to google for pieces of text from the articles within double quotes, there were zero results.

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    Czech Uncovers Another Nazi Murder Camp
    The Daily Herald (Provo, Utah) - 1945-05-04

    > By EDWARD V. ROBERTS United Press Staff Correspondent LONDON, May 4 (U.P.) - A 15-year-old Czech boy who was forced to work for two years in the Terezin Jewish extermination cap at Auschwitz-Birkenau was credited today with uncovering one of the most sadistic Nazi mass murders.
    > Czeck representatives on the United Nations war crimes commission revealed that the boy, Jenda Weiss of Brono, was liberated recently from the Buchenwald prison camp where he was brought from Terezin a year ago.
    > Jenda testified that up to 2,000 Jews were killed monthly in the Terezin gas chamber on orders from a Herr Moll, director of the camp's murder mill. The boy himself, who was imprisoned at Terezin with 1,500 other Czech youths when he was 12 years old, escaped death only because he was strong and able to work.
    > A transcript of his testimony taken by the war crimes commission charged Moll with the deliberate murder of every man, woman and child in Terezin who was regarded as unfit for arduous labor. Jenda was assigned to work in the camp crematorium where, he said, he was forced to witness Moll's daily atrocities.
    > Jewish internees arriving at the camp in groups of 2,000 were examined at the railroad station by a Dr. Mengele, who usually selected about 30 of the fittest men and women for work gangs.
    > "The rest were taken away to the crematorium," Jenda testified. "Moll had the old people packed into cars and they were thrown alive into a red-hot trench. The rest were removed to the gas chambers."
    > The boy said Nazi guards stripped the victims and herded them into the gas chambers with clubs. The smallest children were thrown in through windows to die with their elders.
    > "Moll would pick up babies by the legs and smash their heads against the wall," he said "Then gas was let into the chamber through three ventilation lines. The people's lungs were gradually destroyed and their shrieks could be heard for about three minutes.
    > "The gas chamber was then opened and those still alive were finished off. People from a special contingent then took out the corpses, removed their gold teeth or rings and cut off their hair, which was collected in bag and removed to factories."
    > Jenda accused Moll of burning special victims alive and torturing others by hanging them by the hands and feet. Then he would shoot off their hands and feet before killing them.

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    Hungarian Woman Tells of Slaying 3,000 Babies To Save Them From Violent Death At Hands of Nazis
    The Cushing Daily Citizen (Cuching, Oklahoma) - 1946-04-11
    By Joan Younger, United Press Staff Correspondent

    > NEW YORK, April 10 - (UP) - A plump little woman sat in a sun-flooded New York apartment today and told how, as a prisoner-physician in a German concentration camp, she killed more than 3,000 babies.
    > Her voice was calm, but her hands twisted nervously in her lap as she said:
    > "Some I strangled with my own hands; others I poisoned."
    > As she gestured, the sun brought out clearly on her white left forearm the number tattooed in blue - A 25404 - placed there by the Germans who held her in Auchwitz concentration camp from May, 1944, to the war's end.
    > **Had To Kill Them**
    > "You understand," she said in rapid Hungarian, "I had to kill them and their mothers from them, in order to save both the gas chambers and the crematorium.
    > "I was placed in charge of the womens hospital - an old stable with no medicine and no instruments - in July, 1944. I saw immediately that all newborn babies and their mothers were put to death.
    > "I began then systematically to abort all pregnant women, and to kill the babies of those who gave normal birth. I would work all day on the wounds of those who have been beaten by the Germans, and at night I would do one abortion after another.
    > "I was supposed to give the new babies to the Germans alive. I delivered them dead, to spare them pain in the experimental laboratories and the gas chambers."
    > **Saved Many Women**
    > Dr. Izella Pearl, who was freed by the British last September, said she had taken the lives of more than 3,000 infants.
    > "But I saved many women from otherwise certain death," she said.
    > The dark-haired, middle-aged woman who formerly operated with her husband a sanatorium at Sziget, Hungary, told then how her entire family - mother, father, husband, and 7-year-old son - had been killed by the Nazis.
    > "I tried twice to commit suicide," she said. "They caught me each time. But now, in spite of the horrible things I have experienced, I want to live, I hope I can be useful."
    > She spoke of the infamous Irma Greze, executed by the Allies for her burtality, describing her as "pathological case - like all the Germans I knew."
    > **Tells Of Cruelties**
    > Once, she said, Miss Grese came to her for an abortion, and as a reward, promised her "A good dose of gas in the crematoriume, so you won't have to suffer too much."
    > Miss Grese, she said, was fascinated by women's breasts, and after selecting each day two or three women with beautiful breasts would beat the women and then order Dr. Pearl to rmove their breasts while she, Miss Grese, watched.
    > Dr. Pearl said she ahd been scheduled to testify against Miss Grese at her trial but could not because of typhus. She also has been scheduled to testify at the trial of Dr. Mengele, the director of Auschwitz, when he is captured. She described Mengele as "a sex maniax."
    > Mengele, she said, always personally watched over difficult and unusual births, and then sentenced the mothers and babies to immediate death.
    > **He Liked To See Pain**
    > "He liked to watch pain," she said. "He enjoyed it. Once, when he interrupted a secret feast of potatoes - on New Year's Eve, 1944, - we were preparing, I managed to dissuade him from killing us with his revolver by presenting him, then and there, with an unusual embryo. He was delighted with the gift and let us off with a beating."
    > Dr. Pearl hopes now to work in this country. She arrived two weeks ago from France.

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    https://www.newspapers.com/image/576481347
    https://i.ibb.co/NSFcx7J/mengele-576481347.jpg
    Former Top Nazi Camp Doctor Of Auschwitz Now In Argentina
    Brooklyn Daily (Brooklyn, New York) - 1959-11-27

    > **Hitler victims who were inmates of the infamous Auschwitz concentration camp are responding to a plea by the World Jewish Congress in New York to come forward with testimony required by the West German authorities for a trial of responsible for the murder of millions of Jews.
    > Ex-Auschwitz inmates in Europe and the Americas have responded.**
    > One of the wanted has been located in Argentina. He is Dr. Josef Mangele, son of a Guensburg (Germany) factory owner.
    > Mengele, against whom an arrest order has been issued by the Lower Court of Freiburg, is both a Doctor of Medicine and a Doctor of Philosophy. From May 30, 1943, to the end of the war (April-May, 1845 [sic]), he was, as SS. Hauptsturmfuehrer, SS-Standortarzt (attending physician) at Auschewitz [sic].
    > The crimes of which Dr Mengele is accused include the selection of Jewish camp inmates, sent to him for examination, for the gas chamber, death by shootling, or medical experiments followed by death in a gas chamber. The second group of crimes involved the direct killing of Jewish inmates by injections of phenol, benzine or air; throwing, together with other SS-men, cans of poison gas into the gas chambers where the victims were held; throwing a newborn baby, in the presence of its mother, into a fire; killing a 14-year-old girl with a dagger. In addition, he ordered the killing of a number of Jewish camp inmates and the shooting of others, because they refused to write to their relatives that they were being well treated.
    > One Jewish professor of medicine was ordered to the gas chamber because he did not include certain inmates incapable of work in the lists those to be gassed. The professor was saved from death by an SS-man.
    > Dr. Mengele's medical experiments were of a wide variety and practically all resulted in death. The most revolting included the injection of painful liquids into the eyes of babies; mixing of poison in the food of gypsy twins or otherwise experimenting on them; causing skin infections by injections into the bodies of children and women. In all cases, the result was extreme pain and then death.

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    This is one of the funniest parts of Gisella Perl's story from 1946: "'He liked to watch pain,' she said. 'He enjoyed it. Once, when he interrupted a secret feast of potatoes - on New Year's Eve, 1944, - we were preparing, I managed to dissuade him from killing us with his revolver by presenting him, then and there, with an unusual embryo. He was delighted with the gift and let us off with a beating.'" I wonder where she grabbed the unusual embryo all of a sudden. Did she carry it with her at all times, because she expected that it would come in handy if she ever needed to appease Mengele?

    The article about Perl also says: "Mengele, she said, always personally watched over difficult and unusual births, and then sentenced the mothers and babies to immediate death." In case there were so many births at Auschwitz that Perl was able to personally kill over 3,000 babies, even though she was only in the camp from May 1944 to the war's end, then how many births did Mengele have time to watch over? How did he know in advance which births were going to be difficult or unusual? Or did he have his underlings watch over all births, and in the case that the birth was going to become difficult or unusual, they were instructed to call him to come and watch?

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    Another eyewitness said that Mengele spent "night and day" on the ramp where new arrivals to Auschwitz were unloaded, so he could decide who would get killed (https://www.nytimes.com/1985/07/21/m...n-mengele.html):

    Many inmates thought that Mengele alone conducted the large "selections." When they arrived at Auschwitz, packed by the hundreds into freight and cattle cars, they were unloaded and herded down a ramp. The Nazi doctors were assigned, on a rotating basis, to stand on the ramp and select those prisoners who would live, as workers at the camp, and those who would be killed.

    The evidence is that Mengele took his turn at the ramp, like everyone else, but he also appeared there frequently to make sure that any twins in a "transport," as the trains were called, would be collected and saved for his research. But the prisoners saw it differently. At a trial of former Auschwitz personnel, in Frankfurt in 1964, an inmate who had been assigned to unload the transports recalled only the name of Mengele. When the judge commented, "Mengele cannot have been there all the time," the witness answered: "In my opinion, always. Night and day." Mengele brought such flamboyance and posturing to the selections task that it was his image inmates remembered.

    So when Mengele was busy at the ramp, I wonder if all the women who had difficult or unusual pregnancies were also brought to the ramp so Mengele could observe them?
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