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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    Dont be jaleous just compare




    623 years 1 single dynasty, all 36 kings from 1 Turkic man descent. World record. Spain didnt have anything similar.
    Lol, Spain has an empire that's spanned the whole earth. It was larger than the Ottoman Empire. Also Spanish royals never killed their brothers, Ottoman sultans on the other hand, killed their brothers the moment they are crowned.
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    Dont worry people soon Japan and England will also become republics and the dynasties there will end. Otherwise they must have a continuity untly 2450 to equal or beat Ottomans.

    So Osman, the humble kid of Ertugrul from the Kayı clan of Oghuz Turks marked the history of all mankind as the origin of the longest lasting dynasty ever in history mankind.

    Big and bold:
    623 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    LOL this is joke? Bulgar since 2k BC? No Bulgar existed since then and they were originally Turkic (Kubrat Asparukh etc.). You give family names. If we do like that Jews win, they bring a Cohen family which traces roots back to Moses brother Aron and it's done (and descent of Ottoman house still exist but we dont count them anymore since 1922 they lost power and its finished). Japanese imperial house is recent for just a few centuries and China had many dynasties like Tang or Qing and none approached 623 years.
    The Turkic house of Osman beat all records and probably monarchy will not last for centuries in England or Japan so this means none will beat them.
    Any quick search on google through multiple sources about longest dynasties should elucidate you on the matter. Ottomans are not mentioned anywhere but you can keep on with your fertile imagination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    Dont worry people soon Japan and England will also become republics and the dynasties there will end. Otherwise they must have a continuity untly 2450 to equal or beat Ottomans.

    So Osman, the humble kid of Ertugrul from the Kayı clan of Oghuz Turks marked the history of all mankind as the origin of the longest lasting dynasty ever in history mankind.

    Big and bold:
    623 years
    Dongar, go outside and have some fresh air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    1. Bulgaria. The House of Dulo or Dulo Clan reigned from 2137 BC until 753 AD, ruling the early Bulgars for 2,890 years. The Kubrat clan founded the dynasty, which brought about the unification of the Bulgar tribes.
    Sounds like complete nonsense that usually coming from newly created artificial states from eastern europe, who desperately trying to invent glorious history. In short this is BS.

    Jap dynasty is indeed oldest ruling though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    Dont be jaleous just compare




    623 years 1 single dynasty, all 36 kings from 1 Turkic man descent. World record. Spain didnt have anything similar.
    Typical Muslim scum taking pride of the Islamic conquest of Spain.

    Why do you pretend to believe in Tengri really???

    In any case, the king of Spain belongs to the Capetians who have been kings in Europe since 987 A.D. which means that they last longer than the Ottomans:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capetian_dynasty

    The Capetian dynasty/kəˈpiːʃən/, also known as the House of France, is a dynasty of Frankish origin, founded by Hugh Capet. It is among the largest and oldest royal houses in Europe and the world, and consisting of Hugh Capet's male-line descendants. The senior line ruled in France as the House of Capet from the election of Hugh Capet in 987 until the death of Charles IV in 1328. They were succeeded by cadet branches, the Houses of Valois and Bourbon, which ruled until the French Revolution.The dynasty had a crucial role in the formation of the French state. Initially obeyed only in their own demesne, the Île-de-France, the Capetian kings slowly but steadily increased their power and influence until it grew to cover the entirety of their realm. For a detailed narration on the growth of French royal power, see Crown lands of France.
    Members of the dynasty were traditionally Catholic. The early Capetians had an alliance with the Church. The French were also the most active participants in the Crusades, culminating in a series of five Crusader Kings – Louis VII, Philip Augustus, Louis VIII, Saint Louis, and Philip III. The Capetian alliance with the papacy suffered a severe blow after the disaster of the Aragonese Crusade. Philip III's son and successor, Philip IV, humiliated a pope and brought the papacy under French control. The later Valois, starting with Francis I, ignored religious differences and allied with the Ottoman Sultan to counter the growing power of the Holy Roman Empire. Henry IV was a Protestant at the time of his accession, but realized the necessity of conversion after four years of religious warfare.
    The Capetians generally enjoyed a harmonious family relationship. By tradition, younger sons and brothers of the King of France are given appanages for them to maintain their rank and to dissuade them from claiming the French crown itself. When Capetian cadets did aspire for kingship, their ambitions were directed not at the French throne, but at foreign thrones. Through this, the Capetians spread widely over Europe.
    In modern times, both King Felipe VI of Spain and Grand Duke Henri of Luxembourg are members of this family, both through the Bourbon branch of the dynasty. Along with the House of Habsburg, it was one of the two most powerful continental European royal families, dominating European politics for nearly five centuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    Dont be jaleous just compare
    I do, brown creature with almond eyes. For start my region Castile and Leon is in the red area of your own video, stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    623 years 1 single dynasty, all 36 kings from 1 Turkic man descent. World record. Spain didnt have anything similar.
    Stop with this lie of 623 years. Timur fucked Ottomans and thanks him your tale of 623 years only works to make to laugh to us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Selurong View Post
    Lol, Spain has an empire that's spanned the whole earth. It was larger than the Ottoman Empire. Also Spanish royals never killed their brothers, Ottoman sultans on the other hand, killed their brothers the moment they are crowned.
    This Turko-Arab is jealous, comparing the Ottoman empire (destruction, destruction and more destruction. And ah, oh yeah, mosques in Albania and Bosnia as its legacy), with the Spanish empire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    Any quick search on google through multiple sources about longest dynasties should elucidate you on the matter. Ottomans are not mentioned anywhere but you can keep on with your fertile imagination.
    Here we go

    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    Not even close, it's not even on top 10.

    1. Bulgaria. The House of Dulo or Dulo Clan reigned from 2137 BC until 753 AD, ruling the early Bulgars for 2,890 years. The Kubrat clan founded the dynasty, which brought about the unification of the Bulgar tribes.
    Bulgars appear in 7th century.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgars
    There cannot be Bulgarians 2137 BC

    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    2. Japan. The Imperial House of Japan has been ruling the country from 660 BCE until today. Known as the Chrysanthemum Throne or Yamato Dynasty, it has continuously reigned for more than 2,669 years. Current monarch is Emperor Akihito.
    Not same unbroken dynasty. Plenty of different dynasties and gap periods.
    http://www.asianartmall.com/Japanese%20Dynasties.html
    History of Japan: Asuka Period, Nara Period, Early Heian, Middle and Late Heian, Kamakura Period, Muromachi (Ashikaga) Period, Edo (Tokagawa) Period, Meiji Restoration

    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    3. Vietnam. The Hồng Bŕng Dynasty is also known as the Lạc Dynasty. It was the 1st dynasty that ruled Vietnam from 2897 to 258 BC, a total of 2,639 years. Legend had it that its founder was Kinh Dương Vương, whose title was Hůng Vương.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%E1%B...3%A0ng_dynasty
    Again this is Hong Bang period with plenty different dynasties and eras.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    4. Korea. From 2333 BCE until 108 BCE, Korea was under th Gojoseon Dynasty. The ancient kingdom remained in power for 2,225 years and laid the foundation for the first proper nation in the peninsula. Dangun Wanggeom was its founder, according to legend.
    Gojoseon is a culture, a myth in Korean founding of nation. No relevant info about dynasty let aside start date.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gojoseon

    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    5. Vietnam. Another dynasty, the Champa Dynasty ruled Vietnam for 1,640 years from 192 BC to 1832 AD. The oldest known written Malay language from the 4th century AD came from this dynasty. It was created 300 years earlier than the Sumatran texts.
    Dynasties and periods of Vietnam AD


    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    6. Belgium. The Belle Dynasty, also known as Balliol Dynasty of Flanders, Belgium, has been in existence and continue to reign for 1,049 years now (from 960 to the present).
    When I look at Europa map I dont see Belle state not now not 500 years ago and not 1000 years ago. You talk about a family.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    7. Georgia. For 997 years, from 813 to 1810, the Bagrationi Dynasty was the ruler of Georgia, a dynasty whose ascendancy began in the early Middle Ages and lasted early in the 19th century.
    Read this:
    The invasions by the Khwarezmians in 1225 and the Mongols in 1236 terminated Georgia’s "golden age". The struggle against the Mongol rule created a dyarchy, with an ambitious lateral branch of the Bagrationi dynasty holding sway over western Georgia (Imereti). There was a brief period of reunion and revival under George V the Brilliant (1299–1302, 1314–1346), but the eight onslaughts of the Turco-Mongol conqueror Timur between 1386 and 1403 dealt a great blow to the Georgian kingdom. About a century later, its unity was finally shattered by the aggressive in Persia based rivalling Turkic federations; the Kara Koyunlu, and the Ak Koyunlu. By 1490/91, the once powerful monarchy fragmented into three independent kingdoms – Kartli (central to eastern Georgia), Kakheti (eastern Georgia), and Imereti (western Georgia) – each led by a rival branch of the Bagrationi dynasty, and into five semi-independent principalities – Odishi, Mingrelia, Guria, Abkhazia, Svaneti, and Samtskhe – dominated by their own feudal clans.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagrat...nasty#Downfall

    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    8. Korean Peninsula. The Silla Dynasty that reigned in the present-day Korean Peninsula started its rule in 57 BCE, a reign that lasted for 992 years, ending in 935 AD. Founded by King Park Hyeokgeose, from whom started the Park family name in Korea, it was one of the country’s Three Kingdoms.
    Sylla was a Korean kingdom which lasted so long like Byzantium also lasted long.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silla
    No heredy continuation

    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    9. Tonga. Tonga was under Tu’i Dynasty for over 900 years, starting from 900 AD until 1865. The mythical Aho’eitu was supposed to be the founder of this dynasty. His descendants still live in the island.
    No father to son dynasty just an Oceanian 'empire,
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu%CA%BBi_Tonga_Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    10. China. China’s longest dynastic reign came from the Zhou Dynasty, a rule the started in 1046 BC up to 256 BCE, a span of 790 years. Iron was introduced to China during the Zhou’s reign and also the period when bronze ware making in China reached its peak. Top Chinese philosophers Confucius, Laozi (Lao Tzu) and Mencius were all born during the Zhou Dynasty.
    This a period in Chinese history. There is no blood line continuation evidence. Also proved by Interregnum periods
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonghe_Regency

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    I do, brown creature with almond eyes. For start my region Castile and Leon is in the red area of your own video, stupid.


    Stop with this lie of 623 years. Timur fucked Ottomans and thanks him your tale of 623 years only works to make to laugh to us.



    This Turko-Arab is jealous, comparing the Ottoman empire (destruction, destruction and more destruction. And ah, oh yeah, mosques in Albania and Bosnia as its legacy), with the Spanish empire
    Stfu you dont want to understand you Moor leftover. When Timur destroyed the Ottoman army at Ankara battle in 1402, Bayezid was captured. Bayezid son escaped (with Serbs) and returned to Balkan side to capital Edirne. Dynasty unbroken you moron and state still existed no allegiance to anyone in free territories.

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