Gedmatch Argentine kits results

[Petalpusher]

I think the reason why so many cluster in north italy is because the sample is heavily mixed with differnt european groups.

For example i remember we had an argentine in the forum (rausch) who was part german, part ukranian, part calabrian. Maybe that guy would plot in north italy even when he is 0% north italian.

Yes of course your genetic position doesn't mean you are from there with multiple ancestries. These people still have to land somewhere, once everything is considered even with a different admix than the average of the country, it's what they are the most similar to.

[Argentano]

Yes of course your genetic position doesn't mean you are from there with multiple ancestries. These people still have to land somewhere, once everything is considered even with a different admix than the average of the country, it's what they are the most similar to.

Yes Agreed

I want to add the castizos 80-90% caucasian but they will be dragged to much to the east. Maybe i should erase their amerindian and increase their euro proportionally

[Petalpusher]

Yes Agreed

I want to add the castizos 80-90% caucasian but they will be dragged to much to the east. Maybe i should erase their amerindian and increase their euro proportionally

There is definetly some reality to it as all people with significant Amerindian are more ANE (and E.Asian) so ethnically they are moving east, they can't really go anywhere else. The thing is they score something older than what the regular eastern european have, which was more mediated by higher Bronze Age and sometimes more Basal too, as opposed to being just something highly ANE like Amerindian (it's the highest ANE today). I know it always surprise people but ethnically there s some truth to it.

[Argentano]

Makes sense then, you can roughly model N.Italy as half Basque half central Italian in admixture.

The guy "Edu" has spanish, north italian and french ancestry. He plots near SW France

[Ibericus]

Most seem to plot in the North italian area, probably the small amerind is pushing them east, also the italian mix.

[Argentano]

Most seem to plot in the North italian area, probably the small amerind is pushing them east, also the italian mix.

True but many of them score 0-1% amerindian

I think it has to do with

1)Amerindian shifting slightly towards the east
2)Iberian+italian (other than nothern)+other euro mixes may end up in Northern italy.

That guy iñaki is a good example he is half basque half northern italy and around 2.6% amerindian. thats why insead of ploting in the middle of italy spain he scores more eastern. Still 2.5% is very low.

It surprised me that just one person scored similar to me. Probably because most white argentines are not pure south italian.

[Ibericus]

True but many of them score 0-1% amerindian

I think it has to do with

1)Amerindian shifting slightly towards the east
2)Iberian+italian (other than nothern)+other euro mixes may end up in Northern italy.

It surprised me that just one person scored similar to me. Probably because most white argentines are not pure south italian.

That guy iñaki is a good example he is half basque half northern italy and around 2.6% amerindian. thats why insead of ploting in the middle of italy spain he scores more eastern. Still 2.5% is very low.

A mix of South Italian with other european can also lead you to plot near north-italy

[Argentano]

A mix of South Italian with other european can also lead you to plot near north-italy

yes i meant that with Iberian+italian (other than nothern)+other euro

I think the reason why so many cluster in north italy is because the sample is heavily mixed with differnt european groups.

For example i remember we had an argentine in the forum (rausch) who was part german, part ukranian, part calabrian. Maybe that guy would plot in north italy even when he is 0% north italian.

[Argentano]

I will make an average of all the Argentine kits and add that average to the map later.

[Sikeliot]

Argentano, where does your father fall on that chart?