Proto-Indo-Iranians: White or not?

[MagnusAurelius]

Yes, they would have been white (like Caucasus-like people). They only became brown by mixing with Australoid influenced South Asian types.

That is wrong, the skin color of a racially pure/almost pure Indigenous Indian is black, many Caucasoids have dark skin due to climate adaptation. They obviously did mix with the Australoid's but I don't think many Indo-Aryans having brown-dark brown skin today is the result of mixing with Australoids even though they all have 20-33% Non-Caucasoid admixture depending on the person/ethnic group.

http://racialreality.altervista.org/skincolor.html

http://www.livescience.com/41040-ski...ied-india.html 27% of South Indians and 80-90% of North Indians (depending on the region) have the same gene mutation for fair skin that Europeans have. This study is not so specific so I estimate that 80-90% of Indo Aryans total have this gene overall.

http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetic...l.pgen.1003912 The Light Skin Allele of SLC24A5 in South Asians and Europeans Shares Identity by Descent Still trying to find more specific numbers of how many South Asians have this gene.

In the far reaches of East India beyond Bangladesh, where people are highly mixed with Mongoloids, this gene is not found at all because the gene mutation for skin color with East Asians is a different one from what Caucasoids have.

[MagnusAurelius]

There is evidence demonstrating the opposite. Indo-Aryans always looked the same.

"The postulation of PIE together with a specific homeland in Europe or Turkey does violence to facts. There is no evidence that the natives of India for the past 8,000 years or so have looked any different from what they look now. The internal evidence of this literature points to events that are as early as 7000 years ago (Kramrisch, 1981) and its geography is squarely in the Indian region. If there was no single PIE, there was no single homeland either."

Indic Language Families and Indo-European. Subhash Kak. Yavanika, Number 6, 1996, pp. 51-64

I highly doubt that considering the Kalash people are the only racially almost racially pure remnant of the original Indo Aryans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalash_people#Religion

[Proto-Shaman]

I highly doubt that considering the Kalash people are the only racially almost racially pure remnant of the original Indo Aryans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalash_people#Religion

Their light complexion is very likely of ANE non-Indo-Aryan origin, because ANE in central-south Asia peaks among the Burusho people. They are most likely related to the Siberian Yeniseians (-> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karasuk_languages). Its no surprise that worlds highest frequency of ANE is found among Yeniseians.

[MagnusAurelius]

The most widely accepted hypothesis which everyone believes without a doubt (unbelievers even discredited of 'morons,) that first IE (so including Indo-Iranians) originated in Pontic Caspian steppe then spread every direction.


So in the end of the day you have dozens of Indo-Iranian languages with probably hundreds of sub dialects spoken all way from Bengal region until Eastern Turkey and the Caucasus by total of +1 billion people but they say that none of them like original speakers who were European-like...


İ find this theory quite weirdo.

You should be specific on what you mean by "White". A White Caucasoid is someone who has pale-fair skin with many people among their population who have light hair/eyes. The proto-Indo Iranians may have all been European looking but since these genes are recessive, most were bred out as they probably mixed in mass with the Caucasoid Elamites and they are supposedly Proto Dravidians who founded the Indus Valley Civilization, they were all dark Caucasoids with light brown-brown-dark brown skin and all dark features. Just like the depictions of the Elamite Auxilaries.

Supposedly a depiction of an Elamite Auxiliary in the pathetic Persian Empires army (owned by superior Greek Army).

Elamite statue.


It is not certain if the proto-Indo Iranians were European looking though. What is certain is the original proto-Indo Europeans in Europe were predominantly dark skin with a small minority who had light eyes, possibly none who had pale-fair skin, the vast majority were all olive-tan-light brown most likely.

http://archhades.blogspot.ca/2015/10...c-looking.html The Germanic/Nordic supremacist fantasies have been debunked. Their fantasy that it was all Nordic looking fair haired people that brought civilization and the original Indo European culture to all of Europe.

"Myth of the light pigmented "Nordic looking" Proto Indo-Europeans debunked."

The poster here speculates that the proto-Indo Iranians were probably fair skinned.

[weirstrass]

I highly doubt that considering the Kalash people are the only racially almost racially pure remnant of the original Indo Aryans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalash_people#Religion

I'm the only Indo-Aryan on this website, along with Purojit. Why don't you filthy stupid beastly animalistic neanderthal non-Aryan savages stop obsessing over Indians?


White Americans and White Europeans = Filthy beastly savage non-Aryan animals, Indians don't care for you.

[Tamerlane]

I'm the only Indo-Aryan on this website, along with Purojit. Why don't you filthy stupid beastly animalistic neanderthal non-Aryan savages stop obsessing over Indians?


White Americans and White Europeans = Filthy beastly savage non-Aryan animals, Indians don't care for you.

Lol dude.

[MagnusAurelius]

I'm the only Indo-Aryan on this website, along with Purojit. Why don't you filthy stupid beastly animalistic neanderthal non-Aryan savages stop obsessing over Indians?


White Americans and White Europeans = Filthy beastly savage non-Aryan animals, Indians don't care for you.

Another stupid troll who makes no sense, probably this guy who was recently banned. The fact that Indians are all mixed Caucasoids makes you all less Aryan by default.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/mem...13-von-nteller

[Tamerlane]

Another stupid troll who makes no sense, probably this guy who was recently banned. The fact that Indians are all mixed Caucasoids makes you all less Aryan by default.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/mem...13-von-nteller

He gets banned as a weekly tradition at TA because he made so many goddamn socks. Anyways you should be banned and actually erased from society due to your retardation and the fact you look like an autistic pedo.

[weirstrass]

Another stupid troll who makes no sense, probably this guy who was recently banned. The fact that Indians are all mixed Caucasoids makes you all less Aryan by default.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/mem...13-von-nteller

The fact that any Gujarati girl would prefer me over you makes me more Indo-Aryan.....how about that?

[Tamerlane]

The fact that any Gujarati girl would prefer me over you makes me more Indo-Aryan.....how about that?

Dude any girl in general would choose you over his Neanderthal pink cracker ass that looks like a bacha baz fucks him in the butt every night to make him stop crying from getting past Peshawar to "racially purify." He looks like he gets anally raped..