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    23andme reads 1%, while AncestryDNA none. Which test gives the best results for native american? and which test inside GedMatch could help me define this?

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    In my opinion the best is Global10 of Davidski one of the owners of Gedmatch.
    But are you sure that your % of Amerind is real and not just noise??? Because 1% or less sound really uncommon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annie999 View Post
    23andme reads 1%, while AncestryDNA none. Which test gives the best results for native american? and which test inside GedMatch could help me define this?
    I would trust 23andMe in this case.

    What about DNA Land? You can upload both your 23andMe and Ancestry to DNA Land and see what you get with each file. As for GEDmatch, MDLP World-22 calculator is good for people with Amerindian.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anakin View Post
    But are you sure that your % of Amerind is real and not just noise?
    23andMe experts are very careful (which is why they have all of these "Broadly something" things). Nothing is noise there. I would say that they are actually too careful with detecting admixtures.

    By too careful I mean reluctant to tell you about minor or "uncertain" admixtures.

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    This is Global10.
    Some people say that is the most accurate. Indeed it was created in 2016.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anakin View Post
    In my opinion the best is Global10 of Davidski one of the owners of Gedmatch.
    But are you sure that your % of Amerind is real and not just noise??? Because 1% or less sound really uncommon.
    I dont know but I always assumed that 1% was more probable than 0% because Im from the American continent and I believe I have some colonial blood that might carry native DNA. But then I noticed in Gedmatch K36 I score 0,1% too, so I started to doubt of the real amount of native in me. I score 0,7% in K10 CHG.

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    I honestly think MyHeritage.com's test might if we're talking about separating Euro from Amerindian autosomal genetics. Whilst on the other hand separating East Asian from Amerindian from each other might be a more difficult task I would assume.

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    What are your MDLP World-22 results?:

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...-22-admixtures

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    I would trust 23andMe in this case.

    What about DNA Land? You can upload both your 23andMe and Ancestry to DNA Land and see what you get with each file. As for GEDmatch, MDLP World-22 calculator is good for people with Amerindian.



    23andMe experts are very careful (which is why they have all of these "Broadly something" things). Nothing is noise there. I would say that they are actually too careful with detecting admixtures.

    By too careful I mean reluctant to tell you about minor or "uncertain" admixtures.
    DNA Land read 0% on both.

    According to 23andme and phasing info (only my mom got tested), I got my 1% from both my parents who were 1% each. My sister scored 0,6% and my uncle (dad's brother) 0%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazou View Post
    I honestly think MyHeritage DNA might if we're talking about separating Euro from Amerindian autosomal genetics. Whilst separating East Asian from Amerindian from each other on the other hand might be a more difficult task I would assume.
    Not necessarily difficult.

    Because there have been at least 20,000 years of separate genetic drift in these two populations:

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4187813

    Time of divergence of races:

    1) Capoids - ca. 160-150,000 years old
    (...)
    7) Caucasoids - ca. 45-30,000 years old
    8) Mongoloids - ca. 45-30,000 years old
    9) Amerinds - ca. 30-20,000 years old*

    *They evolved in Beringia (see the "Beringian standstill hypothesis").
    And apart from some new incursions from Siberia and Polynesia, they have not been mixing during that time. In Eurogenes K36, Inuits score Siberian and Amerindian, but they don't really score much of East Asian:

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...-Eurogenes-K36

    Average Pure Inuit (6 people):

    Siberian - 65.322 %
    Amerindian - 33.483 %


    Fennoscandian - 0.385 %
    Malayan - 0.250 %
    South-Central Asian 0.135 %
    East Asian - 0.067 %
    Pygmy - 0.060 %
    Eastern Euro - 0.058 %
    South Chinese - 0.057 %
    Volga-Ural - 0.050 %
    Oceanian - 0.045 %
    East-Central Euro - 0.038 %
    South Asian - 0.023 %
    Indo-Chinese - 0.022 %

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    I see... well... another choice is to write an e-mail to Dr. Doug Mc Donald. I think he is good detecting residuals.

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