Are Romanians slavs or Latin?

[Stears]

And you still dont have an indo-european language while we have a latin language

Bastard ''Latin'' language.

[Stears]

Well I think you should rename your country into Dacia, I think no one would protest in Romania.

Why I say this? Because of all lunatics in Europe who confuses your name ROMANIA with gypsies, and name Romania have nothin to do with gypsies, but one cannot reason with uneducated fools.

Not to mention that GYPSIES (call them gypsies in PURPOSE) asked for name Romany from U.N. in 1990, because romany in their gypsie language means somethin like; people, means "nation" of people.

They asked that name because they were ashamed of their name "cigany" which Hungarians gave them, and no one brought shame to that term but gypsies themselves, no offence to gypsies here, but this is truth.

Even today they're offended if someone calls them CIGANI/CIGANY which means gypsies, why are they offended? Because majority of them behave like they behave? So that means they're ashamed of themselves.

It is easy to confuse Romanians for Gypsies (in behaviour too) for western europeans.

[Stears]

And this shit is based on what?

Do you deny you removed many slavic words from your vocabulary during linguistic purifications ?

What language did your church used, slavic or ''latin'' ? )))))))))))))

the answer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Ch...nic_in_Romania

The language, while based on Old Church Slavonic, was influenced by the Slavic languages used by surrounding peoples. The most important influences were from Middle and Modern Bulgarian, with some smaller influences from Serbian (in Wallachia) and Russian (in Moldavia)

[EuropeanVlachSon]

Do you deny you removed many slavic words from your vocabulary during linguistic purifications ?

What language did your church used, slavic or ''latin'' ? )))))))))))))

the answer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Ch...nic_in_Romania

Why you are such a clown? Everyone makes fun of you on this forum because you are a clown.
No one removed slavic words from our language idiot, the french language was very influential in our society back than, thats why we have many words from them, as english words today.

Yes, the church was slavonic in middle ages, because thats how orthodoxism worked before. Most of the slavic words are biblical ones, that's why they were "removed"

[Stears]

Why you are such a clown? Everyone makes fun of you on this forum because you are a clown.
No one removed slavic words from our language idiot, the french language was very influential in our society back than, thats why we have many words from them, as english words today.

Yes, the church was slavonic in middle ages, because thats how orthodoxism worked before. Most of the slavic words are biblical ones, that's why they were "removed"

Wrong, It became only influential in the 19th century, during era of romantic nationalism. Before that there was zero French influence in Romanian.

Hungarian catholic church used Latin language, while your used slavic language. You loaned many western romance words (and replaced slavic) because you are western wannabe nation with semi-asian orthodox religion.

Deal with it.

[EuropeanVlachSon]

Wrong, It became only influential in the 19th century, during era of romantic nationalism. Before that there was zero French influence in Romanian.

Hungarian catholic church used Latin language, while your used slavic language. You loaned many western romance words (and replaced slavic) because you are western wannabe nation with semi-asian orthodox religion.

Deal with it.

And I said that the french influenced us before 19 century ?
Hungarian catholic church used latin language because thats how catholics used to do, romanians used slavonic because thats how orthodox used to do. What do you wanna to prove with this, that you are more western? Lol, what a frustration on you, dumb, we still have a latin romance language while you dont, why such butthurt?
We loaned many western words because everyone done this, every nation.


You didnt even had slavonic church but still 20% of your language have roots in slavic

[Stears]

And I said that the french influenced us before 19 century ?
Hungarian catholic church used latin language because thats how catholics used to do, romanians used slavonic because thats how orthodox used to do. What do you wanna to prove with this, that you are more western? Lol, what a frustration on you, dumb, we still have a latin romance language while you dont, why such butthurt?
We loaned many western words because everyone done this, every nation.


You didnt even had slavonic church but still 20% of your language have roots in slavic

Wrong. Greeks have never used slavic language in liturgy, and orthodox religion originates from them. You used it because your ancestors mixed with slavs.

Hungarians never denied influence of western christian slavs in our history, unlike xenophobic Romanians who claim ridiculous Daco-Roman ubermensch theory.

[Stears]

In the reality, the late-nomad Vlach shepherd tribesmen (the ancestors of modern Romanians) migrated from Bulgaria and South-Eastern Serbia to the present-day territory of Romania in the 13th century. The irrational daco-romanian continuity myth is nothing more than a chauvinist "nativist" state-propaganda. This propaganda was born & started with the teachings of the "Transylvanian School" (A politically very active "cultural" organization) in the era of national awakening & nationalism. The fantasies and myths of "Transylvanian School" served and followed strictly the romanian national & political interests since the very beginnings. It's the compulsory curriculum for children in romania since the communist Gheorghiu-Dej, and especially under Ceausescu's directives , this national belief/religion became the central part of modern Romanian identity. Fortunately it is not generally accepted by western academic scholars. That's why all major Western Encyclopedias (E.Encarta, E. Britannica, E.Americana, German Brockhaus, French Larousse etc...) mention the romanian state-supported daco-romanian myth, but they are also mention the reality: the Vlach nomad migration from the Balkans in the 13th century.
Vlach (name for medieval & early modern romanians in European chronicles) was the latest nation who introduced the literacy in Europe, and they were one of the latest shepherd nomadic people in Europe. The earliest romanian chronicle was Grigore Ureche's chronicle in the early 17th century(!!!), who wrote about the balkan migration of his Vlach people. There were no orthodox bishopry in medieval Vallachia & Moldavia, even most of the monks and priests had to be „imported” from Serbia. Due to the lack of medieval literacy and own romanian history writing/chronicles, the poor romanians had to built up a so-called "speculative history-writting" (or fabricated history), where speculations based on earlier speculations and fictions etc..






There are no material proofs (cemetries or vlach cultic places) which can support the romanian (vlach) existence in present-day territory of romania before the 1200s.


There are no CONTEMPORARY (from the 5th century to the late 12th century) written documents about the existence Vlachs (neo-latino/romance speaking population) in the territory of later Vallachia, Moldavia, and especially in Transylvania before the 1200s.


WERE WERE YOU HIDING FROM THE EYES OF CHRONICLERS for more than 800 years dear "daco"-"romans"?






The neo-latin elements in Romanian language remain the best proof agaist daco-roman theory. Unlike in the case of other neo-latin/romance languages, there are no proofs for development of dacian language into a neo-latin romance language, because there are not remained dacian vocabulary for the posterior. The dacian conquest was the shortest lasting conquest of the Roman Empire in Europe, it lasted only 160years, the relations between the Roman legions and dacians remianed very hostile. Note: The BARBARIZATION of the Roman army was very (shockingly) massive and rapid since the end of the first century: the 90% of the “Roman” army had not Roman/Latin or Italian ancestry since the end of the 1st century. The contemporary multi-ethnic legionaries were Roman citizens, but they were recruited from various primarily multinational, non-Latin provinces, so THEY WERE NOT ROMANS or LATINS. (Despite of this , average Romanians believe that they are also descendants of the "Ancient Romans") This very short & hostile circumstance are not an ideal contingency for romanization process. There are no CONTEMPORARY historic records for the survive of dacians after the Roman withdrawal, and later the territory was the FOCAL POINT of great migrations. The area saw serials of many strong powerful and brutal barbaric tribes and people such as Goths, Huns, Longobards, Gepids, Avars, Pechenegs later Slavs and Cumans. UNLIKE the Vlach ancestors of modern Romanians, all of these barbarian ethnic groups WERE HISTORICALLY RECORDED countless times in contemporary (4th - 9th century) written sources in the dark age & early medieval period. After the centuries barbarian invasions, the written records mentioned only Slavic speaking populations in the area under turkic- Cuman rule, but they didn't mention the existence of any neo-latino /romance speaking population. There are tons of contemporary written documents (chronicles from early medieval to high medieval era , from 4th to 11th century) about the shepherd nomad Vlachs in the Balkan peninsula, but there are no material or written proofs for their existence in the present-day territory of Romania before the 1200s. However the roman rule lasted for 500+ years in many territories of Balkan peninsula (where vlachs were often mentioned by many early medieval chronicles) There is also no trace of lingual influence from any of the other peoples who lived in Transylvania after the withdrawal of the Romans, the Huns, Goths, Gepids Longobards, Avars, Pechenegs and Cumans. If these languages did not have any influence on the Rumanian language, we can be sure that this is proof that at that time there were no Wallachian settlers in Transylvania. Let's don't forget, that the old Romanian language also contained ALBANIAN SUBSTRATUM. Moreover, the old Romanian language was the only language in Europe which contained Albanian substratum. During the creation of romanian literary language and language reforms in the 19th century, the high ratio of south-slavic, albanian and turkic words were purged from the vocabulary of the romanian language, and they were replaced by adopted modern French Italian and other modern-era neo-latin words, French and Italian neologisms and even full modern French expressions were adopted to replace the old ones. These new modern Western European (modern French & Italian) romance expressions and words simply did not exist in the era original ancient latin speaking populations or in the vulgar latin languages. Other interesting fact, that Romanian language borrowed the already existing Hungarian, Slavic and Saxon origin toponyms and hydronyms of Transylvania.


The territory of modern romania belonged to the Bulgaria first, later it came under Byzantine rule. From the late 11th century, the territory was occupied and ruled by the turkic Cuman tribes. After the brutal mongol invasions and attacks in 1240, nomadic Vlachs (romanians) started to migrate towards modern romania, and their (turkic) Cuman overlords (like the wallachian state-founder prince Basarab) established their first Vlach romanian principalities. Romanian lands became vassal state of the Hungarian kings and later they were vassals of Polish kings. In the 16th century, romania became an Ottoman province until the Congress of Berlin in 1878.
Since the 16th century the settled life slowly became dominant lifestyle among the formerly mostly nomadic-shepherd romanians. It doesn't sound a very civilized interesting and important history...

[GiCa]

Romanian have a Latin heart. (I ve already posted it)

Meaning they show pride in the past Latin colonization and their culture derives by it

For instance as I posted already they very often use Latin Celebrative nea for their babies, like Traian etc just have a look at their names

An curiously they choosed to imigrate greatly in Italy

Also Latin toponims are a catch for them

There are many Romanians in the Italy city of Latina

[Dandelion]

They are the descendants of the region who weren't 'traitors' to the Roman Empire.