Iraq Turkmen Arabic DNA not Central Asian. They are Turkified Arabic people.

[ButlerKing]

As you can you see Iraqi Turkmen Y-DNA is nearly indistinguishable from Arabic people other than it's 2% haplogroup Q



Their most common Y-DNA itself is E1b1b which is nearly 18% in Iraqi Turkmen but 0% in Turkish and other Turkic people. E1b1b is most common in genetically Europeans Greeks, Balkans North African Berbers, mix raced East Africans.




Another haplogroup marker which is not central Asian is haplogroup J1 12.5%

Although Turkish have 9% haplogroup J1 the Turkmen have it 0% only the Uzbeks have it few percent.
Haplogroup J1 is most common in Arabic people and North Caucasus people. It's even more higher Caucasus people.

It doesn't matter if other Turks have it, the point is they can't be descendant of Turkmens if Turkmen have 0% or very low J1

[Marmara]

Ok

[Starseed88]

OK! Plus, why are interested in posting an article about Iraqi Turkmen when you're of British origin that's just weird or do you have a connection?

[ButlerKing]

Ok

Do you think Iraqi Turkmen are direct descendants of Turkmen or Turkish ??????

History[edit]


" the largest migration, during the Ottoman Empire (1535-1919). With the conquest of Iraq by Suleiman the Magnificent in 1534, followed by Sultan Murad IV's capture of Baghdad in 1638, a large influx of Turks - predominately from Anatolia - settled down in Iraq. Thus, most of today's Iraqi Turkmen are the descendants of the Ottoman soldiers, traders and civil servants who were brought into Iraq during the rule of the Ottoman Empire.[11][12][3][17] "


"During the subsequent Abbassid era, thousands more Turkmen warriors were brought into Iraq; however, the number of Turkmen who had settled in Iraq were not significant, as a result, the first wave of Turkmen became assimilated into the local Arab population.[18] "

[ButlerKing]

OK! Plus, why are interested in posting an article about Iraqi Turkmen when you're of British origin that's just weird or do you have a connection?

Because they look indistinguishable from the rest of the Levantine people or Iraqi, Syrians, Arabic speaking tribes. Their Y-DNA also don't look any different to them.

[Marmara]

Do you think Iraqi Turkmen are direct descendants of Turkmen or Turkish ??????

History[edit]


" the largest migration, during the Ottoman Empire (1535-1919). With the conquest of Iraq by Suleiman the Magnificent in 1534, followed by Sultan Murad IV's capture of Baghdad in 1638, a large influx of Turks - predominately from Anatolia - settled down in Iraq. Thus, most of today's Iraqi Turkmen are the descendants of the Ottoman soldiers, traders and civil servants who were brought into Iraq during the rule of the Ottoman Empire.[11][12][3][17] "


"During the subsequent Abbassid era, thousands more Turkmen warriors were brought into Iraq; however, the number of Turkmen who had settled in Iraq were not significant, as a result, the first wave of Turkmen became assimilated into the local Arab population.[18] "

Iraqi Turkmens speak Azerbaijani dialect. Syrian Turkmens speak Turkish dialect, don't mix two together.

[Marmara]

Syrian Turkmens are called Aleppo Turkmens, settled in Aleppo province during Seljuk era, Aleppo Turkmens extend to Southeastern Turkey (Southeastern Turkey was part of Aleppo province historically) and also live in there, i'm related to Aleppo Turkmens, my family speak the Turkmen dialect.

[ButlerKing]

Syrian Turkmens are called Aleppo Turkmens, settled in Aleppo province during Seljuk era, Aleppo Turkmens extend to Southeastern Turkey (Southeastern Turkey was part of Aleppo province historically) and also live in there, i'm related to Aleppo Turkmens, my family speak the Turkmen dialect.

I don't know about Syrian Turkmens but are Iraqi Turkmens genetically descended from Turks ? How does one know if they genetic descent from Turks ? Their Y-DNA doesn't seem any different from Arabic but maybe 1/5 of their Y-DNA are Turkish with a little bit of Turkmen and when speaking of Turk descendant they only mention Turk men, Turk soldiers, traders but no Turk women so I can't guessing their mtDNA would be Arabic.

[ButlerKing]

Y-DNA haplogroups of Turkmens

Recent studies on the Turkmens of Iran and Afghanistan suggest that haplogroup Q is the dominant Y-DNA in Turkmens. So far, there have been two detailed studies on the Y-DNA of Turkmens.

One piece of research (Cristofaro et al.,2013) found that the Turkmens in Afghanistan have 31.1% Q-M25 (Q1a2, in the 2017 ISOGG phylogeny) and 2.7% Q-M346 (Q total 25/74=33.8%), followed by R1a1a/R-M198 at 16.2%, also R1b 2.74%, R2 1.4%), J1c3 (J-Page8; 8.1%, also other various J-subclades at 9.5%), N1b/N-P43 (6.8%), G2a/G-P303 (4.1%), L1a/L-M76 (4.1%), and various subgroups of E1b1b 5.4%, O3 (KL2, M134) 2.7%, C(M401) 1.4%, H(M69*) 1.4%.[35]

Another study (Grugni et al.,2012) found that 42.6% (29/68) of Iranian Turkmens (in Golestan) have haplogroup Q-M25, followed by R1a1a/R-M198 (14.5%, also R1b 4.3%, R2 1.4%), J1c3/J-Page8 (5.8%, also other various J-subclades at 8.8%), G2a (5.8%), L3/L-M357 (5.8%), E1b1b (4.3%), NO (2.9%, xN, xO), H (1.4%), T (1.4%).[36] The above studies suggest that there is a strong possibility that the precursors of the Turkmen, such as the Oghuz, belonged to Q-M25.

[Marmara]

I don't know about Syrian Turkmens but are Iraqi Turkmens genetically descended from Turks ? How does one know if they genetic descent from Turks ? Their Y-DNA doesn't seem any different from Arabic but maybe 1/5 of their Y-DNA are Turkish with a little bit of Turkmen and when speaking of Turk descendant they only mention Turk men, Turk soldiers, traders but no Turk women so I can't guessing their mtDNA would be Arabic.

Iraqi Turkmens are not descended from Turkish people, that what i can say. I cannot understand their language. Logically genetically they must be closest to Azerbaijanis.