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    Quote Originally Posted by ЛыSSый View Post
    ok, lillte sister, let you concretize us: who didn't allow to us army to do that?

    ok, little sister, can you say to us owner of your parents/grands?
    1. Have you ever heard the word "Demarcation line"?
    2. to us? who is "us" your parents/grandparents were less than slaves less than nothing during the Soviet period
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
    3. I am not you sister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikula View Post
    Maps of areas liberated by Soviet Army (red) and by US Army (blue)

    When Red Army liberated you they 'liberated, you with similar stories as liberation of Berlin, East Prussia? I mean you know alleged stories with treatment of civilians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnolia View Post
    1. Have you ever heard the word "Demarcation line"?
    2. to us? who is "us" your parents/grandparents were less than slaves less than nothing during the Soviet period
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
    3. I am not you sister.
    ay, little sister, i know this jewish trick with counterquestions, it's usualy used when opponent has nothing to answer. but unfortunately you're goy and can't use it properly. might i ask you answer in proper way? or is it too hard for you?

    but you want speak about golodomor, you may do it in spesialized thread "Why people forget about Holodomor?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    When Red Army liberated you they 'liberated, you with similar stories as liberation of Berlin, East Prussia? I mean you know alleged stories with treatment of civilians?


    ubfortunately these stories are just town legends without facts, the facts are some lonely criminal cases in red army about looting and rape of germanians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ЛыSSый View Post
    ay, little sister, i know this jewish trick with counterquestions, it's usualy used when opponent has nothing to answer. but unfortunately you're goy and can't use it properly.

    but you want speak about golodomor, you may do it in spesialized thread "Why people forget about Holodomor?"


    I am not your sister - we have nothing in common.
    I answered you - you didn't get it; it's not my problem;
    And I'm not in mood to explain it to you.
    I am bored with topic like this.
    Wtf wants still discuss about WWII... Not me. Sorry.
    Have a nice evening/life / whatever
    bye

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnolia View Post
    I am not your sister - we have nothing in common.
    I answered you - you didn't get it; it's not my problem;
    And I'm not in mood to explain it to you.
    I am bored with topic like this.
    Wtf wants still discuss about WWII... Not me. Sorry.
    Have a nice evening/life / whatever
    bye
    ok, little sister, i understand you: you don't know details, you're just terminally butthurt about russians. may i ask you next time will answer in this way but not try to show yourself smarter than you are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    When Red Army liberated you they 'liberated, you with similar stories as liberation of Berlin, East Prussia? I mean you know alleged stories with treatment of civilians?
    Well, during communism I have seen the same map but with different inscriptions:
    Area liberated by Soviet Army
    Area occupied by American Army


    I was upset for the politization of the history and found it ridiculous.
    Ridiculous for me is also when reverse politization of history, today.

    If you are asking about the cases of looting and raping by the Soviet forces, it happened too, unfortunatelly - but it was a taboo to talk about it during communism.
    Number of people who remember the last days of WW2 is decreasing, and each person had its own personal experience - positive or negative one, or both.
    And people mostly dont wish to remember the worse things.
    I am against politization of history and I prefer to mention both sides of the story.
    During communism the only thing what I can read at textbooks of history at school about role of Americans in WW2 at our country, was, that their Air Forces bombed Czech towns and factories.
    Nothing about Plzeň people who welcomed them as liberators.
    I was born in 1970s and perhaps it is the reason why I am sensitive for simillar cherrypicking .
    HOWGH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikula View Post
    Well, during communism I have seen the same map but with different inscriptions:
    Area liberated by Soviet Army
    Area occupied by American Army
    Mikula, you know russian, may you correctly translate and explain them difference between
    "медаль за освобождение праги" и "мадаль за взятие вены"


    Quote Originally Posted by Mikula View Post
    If you are asking about the cases of looting and raping by the Soviet forces, it happened too, unfortunatelly - but it was a taboo to talk about it during communism.
    why? criminal cases about cases exists and they're uncovered for many years. i may beleive in looting, but in rapes - we must check theirs surnames on nationality.
    Last edited by ЛыSSый; 05-04-2017 at 12:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ЛыSSый View Post
    Mikula, you know russian, may you correctly translate and explain them difference between
    "медаль за освобождение праги" и "мадаль за взятие вены"
    1) Взятие = conquering
    2) Освобождение = liberation

    IMHO the difference is that
    1) To the country/area/town entered troops what were not welcomed by the locals
    2) To the country/area/town entered troops what were welcomed by the locals

    In archive at Opava I have seen a Soviet military newspaper (dated April 1945) with article named
    ГОРОД ТРОППАУ ВЗЯТ!

    I was disappointed that the titel had not name
    ГОРОД ОПАВА ОСВОБОЖДЕН!

    Nevertheless, majority of Opava (Troppau) dwellers, until 1946 were German-speaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ЛыSSый View Post

    why? criminal cases about cases exists and they're uncovered for many years. i may beleive in looting, but in rapes - we must check theirs surnames on nationality.
    What do you mean?

    Алёша Кузнецов did not rape, unlike Чингиз Магометов?
    Or both of them raped just Greta Spielvogel at Opava (Troppau)
    but not her neighbour Anežka Lindovská?
    Last edited by Mikula; 05-04-2017 at 08:44 AM.

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