Semitic Syrian imperial dynasty of Byzantium

[Böri]

They claimed their parental ancestry from John Komneoi as Roman defect to Seljuk Rum sultanate.

All Ottoman historians just like positivist independent source confirm Turkoman patrilineal descent of Ottoman house. There is nothing disputed. You must be talk about some woman.

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The only scripts found in Troy were Luwian ones.

Script? All they found was a Luwian seal which is not even significant because it was found in a later layer (containing minoan and myceanean pottery). A similar Luwian seal is known from Mycenae.

Your reasoning: A Luwian seal was found in Troy therefore Trojans were Greeks. That's pure speculation. I guess since Egyptian paintings have been found in Pompey that makes Southern Italians Egyptians.

The difference between you and me is that you are SPECULATING by concentrating one 1 piece of evidence and dismissing 99% of the other evidence.

In the same way you are SPECULATING about Pelasgians by misinterpreting and taking out of context ONE verse by Herodotus and dismissing all other evidence that shows Pelasgians were Greek.

You dismiss what every ancient historian has written that doesn't fit your far leftist view. I don't have to speculate about Trojans or Pelasgians. All I have is actually quote what every Ancient historian has said about them which happens to be backed by archeology.

If Trojans were not Greeks then why the early Romans spoke Greek? Why no Luwian language has been found in Italy?
Why Monmoth says that Trojans spoke Greek? Why all Roman and Greek historians considered them Greek?

Why every Ancient historian said that Pelasgians were Greeks? You see, I don't need to speculate about them becuase their geneology is already recorded by Ancient historians. It is you who is the revisionist and dismiss the recorded history. Ancient historians are very clear about the origin of both Pelasgians and Trojans.

"... Pelasgians, a Greek nation which did not came from elsewhere but we were born autochthonous." (Plutarch, Peri fyges 604D-E,13)

"... for the Pelasgians, too, were a Greek nation originally from the Peloponnesus."
(Dionysius of Halicarnassus. Roman Antiquities 1.17)

"This was the next Greek nation after the Pelasgians to come into Italy and to take up a common residence with the Aborigines, establishing itself in the best part of Rome."
(Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Roman Antiquities 1.33)

"And I think that it was the fame of this city [Argos] that prepared the way, not only for the Pelasgians and the Danaans, as well as the Argives, to be named after it, but also for the rest of the Greeks" (Strabo, Geography VIII.6)

"Paris was absent. But soon afterwards, he brought into that land a ravished wife, Helen, the cause of a disastrous war, together with a thousand ships, and all the great Pelasgian nation." (Ovid, The Metamorphoses XII)

[Scholarios]

Script? All they found was a Luwian seal which is not even significant because it was found in a later layer (containing minoan and myceanean pottery). A similar Luwian seal is known from Mycenae.

Your reasoning: A Luwian seal was found in Troy therefore Trojans were Greeks. That's pure speculation. I guess since Egyptian paintings have been found in Pompey that makes Southern Italians Egyptians.

The difference between you and me is that you are SPECULATING by concentrating one 1 piece of evidence and dismissing 99% of the other evidence.

In the same way you are SPECULATING about Pelasgians by misinterpreting and taking out of context ONE verse by Herodotus and dismissing all other evidence that shows Pelasgians were Greek.

You dismiss what every ancient historian has written that doesn't fit your far leftist view. I don't have to speculate about Trojans or Pelasgians. All I have is actually quote what every Ancient historian has said about them which happens to be backed by archeology.

If Trojans were not Greeks then why the early Romans spoke Greek? Why no Luwian language has been found in Italy?
Why Monmoth says that Trojans spoke Greek? Why all Roman and Greek historians considered them Greek?

Why every Ancient historian said that Pelasgians were Greeks? You see, I don't need to speculate about them becuase their geneology is already recorded by Ancient historians. It is you who is the revisionist and dismiss the recorded history. Ancient historians are very clear about the origin of both Pelasgians and Trojans.

"... Pelasgians, a Greek nation which did not came from elsewhere but we were born autochthonous." (Plutarch, Peri fyges 604D-E,13)

"... for the Pelasgians, too, were a Greek nation originally from the Peloponnesus."
(Dionysius of Halicarnassus. Roman Antiquities 1.17)

"This was the next Greek nation after the Pelasgians to come into Italy and to take up a common residence with the Aborigines, establishing itself in the best part of Rome."
(Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Roman Antiquities 1.33)

"And I think that it was the fame of this city [Argos] that prepared the way, not only for the Pelasgians and the Danaans, as well as the Argives, to be named after it, but also for the rest of the Greeks" (Strabo, Geography VIII.6)

"Paris was absent. But soon afterwards, he brought into that land a ravished wife, Helen, the cause of a disastrous war, together with a thousand ships, and all the great Pelasgian nation." (Ovid, The Metamorphoses XII)

So Mycenaean pottery , but no Mycenean language but there was Luwian language. Interesting. I wonder what that means. Hmmm

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So Mycenaean pottery , but no Mycenean language but there was Luwian language. Interesting. I wonder what that means. Hmmm

There was no Luwian language only a Luwian seal with Luwian letters. Trojans had Greek names and a Greek culture and worshipped the same Gods as the Greeks. Long before the Aeolian and Ionian migrations Aegean Islands and most of the coast of Asia-Minor was already Greek and admitted to being Greek by the Hittites.

The whole Asia Minor was Minoan before it was Myceanean. Linear A has been found as far up as Bulgaria

Herodotus identifies the Trojans with Teucrians and Strabo identifies the Teucrians with Cretans. With Trojan kings with names like Alexander recorded by the Hittites their origin couldn't be more obvious.

[Böri]

Greeks dont worry. In the end of the day you just had a MENA dynasty Turkey is turning all MENA

[Albobalboa]

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ΒΥΖΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ
ΑΥΤΟΚΡΑΤΟΡΑΣ!"

http://www.freeinquiry.gr/pro.php?id=509

Bruh.

[Tauromachos]

Byzantine Emperors/Dynasties with Greek ancestry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palaiologos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komnenos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonian_dynasty

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doukas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laskaris

Byzantine Emperors\Dynasties with Roman\Latin ancestry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justinian_I

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinian_dynasty

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentinian_dynasty

The Isaurians where a Greco\Syrian dynasty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzant...aurian_dynasty

others like the Heraclians where Armenians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzant...aclian_dynasty

Byzantium had people of diverse origins and backgrounds

but the overall culture and language was Greco/Roman.
Not to mention that as it happens with Aristocrats all over the world,they often mixed\intermarried with one another.

Even the ethnic Syrian Byzantines spoke greek and where known under Greek Names.

[Tauromachos]

@Siyendi
Why the hell is a Turkish guy with a wolf's avatar"right wing turkish" bragging so much about Semites\Assyrians in Byzantium.

Turkoman-Semite relation is almost 0.
Even Greeks would be more semitic,compared to them.

[Tauromachos]

Byzantium had no ethnicity. Greek mongrels talk about Seljuks and Ottomans but these Turks are beyond their reach in ethnic and blood awareness. With Turks everyone, all Sultans descend STRAIGHT from the first Khan or Bey who was Turkic origin.

[Profileid]

No surprise.
As is the case in many instances, Syrian things are wrongly mistaken for Greek.