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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    Lol, I find it funny that the Bosniak language is a Serbo-Croatian language, and even my Serbian friends told me that they can understand their Slavic neighbors quite well.
    Serbs, Croatians, Dalmatians, Bosnians are either a single large tribe or union of a tribes who gathered around a single religion.
    Romans used to call us Illyrians but we never called ourselves like that nor we spoke any Greek/Roman languages in history.

    Russians and Albanians are stealing our history by telling us that we "came from them (russians) or in case Albanians they say "we are illyrians"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa Nazione View Post
    Actually you're wrong as hell.
    I2-CTS10228 is nothing more than pure Slavic branch, and it's confirmed in science. Only retards like you on forums can not accept fact that they are Slavs.
    P37+, CTS410+
    M423+, CTS5375+
    L621+
    CTS10936+
    CTS10228+
    Z17855+
    A1221+

    You are in the I-A1221 haplogroup which is one of two known branches below I-Z17855.
    What about this branch?

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    These are neo-morphed from old euro haplogroups its why it is so young probably fusion from recent rivals aside from balto-slavs whom i consider old R1a anything less than 3000 year old is fusion of other rivals like tartars, pechenegs, khazars etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa Nazione View Post
    Actually now there are only 2 E1b Y-dna samples over more than 100 tested from European Neolithic.
    E-V13 from neolithic Spain and E-M78 from neolithic Hungary.
    Of course G2a is dominant.
    It's fascinating how everybody keep repeating the same wrong thing over and over, E1b has nothing to do with the early neolithic, there was like the same level of E1b than in N.Europe today, and considering something spread all over Europe. E1b likely was brought later in the neolithic or even in the Bronze Age, it's gonna pop up soon or later in some ancient samples but here we are talking about an time era, not a group as in a genetically distinct group.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazbolat View Post
    and were basal eurasians closer to africans or modern west eurasians?
    The answer is in your question, Basal Eurasian as in "first eurasians". They are closer to W.Eurasians by large since everything descends from them.

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    If someone is interested to read, co-administrator of E-M35 FTDNA Project has wrote a great text about E-V13 haplogroup.
    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Croatian +50% Serbian @ 2.265001

    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer
    how come the age of I2a2 Din subclade exactly coincides with the age of Bosnian Pyramids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa Nazione View Post
    If someone is interested to read, co-administrator of E-M35 FTDNA Project has wrote a great text about E-V13 haplogroup.
    very detailed pdf, I will, thanks
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    A congolese or a swedish can be E1b, What does it matter? Afrophobia? Even an advanced clade like E1b1b1 (E-M35) have most of its diversity in Africa and is shared by caucasoids and non caucasoids.

    Nostalgia when they used "E3a" and "E3b" as nomenclature, was more easy know what they were talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Serbs, Croatians, Dalmatians, Bosnians are either a single large tribe or union of a tribes who gathered around a single religion.
    Romans used to call us Illyrians but we never called ourselves like that nor we spoke any Greek/Roman languages in history.

    Russians and Albanians are stealing our history by telling us that we "came from them (russians) or in case Albanians they say "we are illyrians"
    Albanians have more of a claim on Illyrians than Bosniaks do by far. South Slavs weren't called Illyrians by Romans they were called Illyrians later on during the 19th century and this was based of pan-nationalistic and geographic ideas, nothing cultural or genetic. your just angry about your pure Slavic I2a-Din Ydna, also why do you dislike being a Slav?
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    From Eupedia I2a page: "The I2a1b-L147.2 subclade seems to have expanded very fast from 1900 years ago, which is concordant with the timing of the Slavic ethnogenesis, considering that it takes a few centuries before one man can have enough male descendants to start having an impact at the scale of a population. This I2-L147.2 ancestor would have such an impact on the burgeoning Early Slavic population, still small 2,300 years ago, but booming." "the Slavs moved in the Dinaric Alps and the Balkans." "The higher percentage of I2a-Din in the south is probably just due to another founder effect due to the fact that the South Slavs originated in western Ukraine, where the ratio of I2a to R1a was higher. Virtually all Dinaric I2a falls under the L147.2 branch, and the majority to the S17250 ramification, who descend from a common patrilinear ancestor who lived only 1,800 years ago."
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    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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