Is Western Civilisation Synonymous With White Civilisation?

[Amor Vincit Omnia]

That classification is wrong. Persia has been a separate civilization for most of its history. Even today it has way too much influence from its Zoroastrian past to be bunched with the rest of Islamic world. It should be placed between Islam and Hindu.

I agree , i was thinking the same , anyway i reported the idea of Huntington
The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order ( Huntington )

[Sockorer]

Pretty much, when you have "Western Civilization" without White people, you get stuff like Latin America or American Blacks.

[Stears]

Not exactly. Western civilization grew out from western provinces of Roman empire and another Celtic lands. So many "white" European tribes in northern, central and eastern Europe were not part of it initially, just like eastern Mediterranean civilization. But later western civilization was spreaded to the east, north and south with Christianization, Crusades, colonial expansion and recent wars (18-20 centuries) absorbing and transforming another cultures including "non white". So on the one hand: West and "white" are not synonyms niether today nor in the past. On the other: "white" civilization is homeland and main part of the West and without "whities" this conception doesn't make sense

Wrong. Ancient greco-roman world was not the root and direct ancestor of Western civilization. Western civilization started with the Franks, and with the great schism in 1054.

[Fantomas]

Wrong. Ancient greco-roman world was not the root and direct ancestor of Western civilization.

Agree

Western civilization started with the Franks, and with the great schism in 1054.

Franks brought nothing new in West. Their culture was completely of Roman provincial type (i.e. Celtic in point of fact). And schism of 1054 was just one event that drew the line in long history of rivalry between West and East.

[brennus dux gallorum]

No. African Americans are part of it

[Wanderer]

Sorry to burst your bubble of values but both Greek and Roman civilizations were founded on system slavery. Both of them eventually collapsed. Thus there is a good chance something was wrong with those values.

And contemporary civilizations are based on wage slavery.

[Smeagol]

Yes.

[Wanderer]

Russian civilization is so much more than Orthodoxity. Their civilization is Slavic first and foremost, and are as European as any Western European.

Slavic civilization is still Western (i.e., Greco-Roman), but significantly more emphasis on the Greek elements.

[Lavrentis]

Slavic civilization is still Western (i.e., Greco-Roman), but significantly more emphasis on the Greek elements.

Depends, Orthodox Slavs put more emphasis to the Greek part due to Orthodoxy, while Catholic Slavs put more emphasis to the Roman part due to Catholicism


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[Wanderer]

Depends, Orthodox Slavs put more emphasis to the Greek part due to Orthodoxy, while Catholic Slavs put more emphasis to the Roman part due to Catholicism


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I agree. I was simply responding to the notion that "Slavic civilization" is a thing of its own. I don't think so. All those civilizational aspects can be attributed to Greece or Rome.