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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    Good luck but seeing how they are this looks difficult
    I will propose a theory of dialectical therapy for communist plague, to treat communism scientifically, peacefully, ethically, methodologically, precisely surgerically just like a doctor treating a patient with tumor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexachordia View Post
    The west will still sell humanity to red devils, we have to fight the red plague by ourself. Germany was right when she tried to pioneer anticommitern movement, but radical racialist policy undermined their ideological achievement. Communism is a plague, humanity just has to deal with it no matter what.
    I hope you know that most of its history humanity lived under Communist formation in its primitive stage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hexachordia View Post
    I will propose a theory of dialectical therapy for communist plague, to treat communism scientifically, peacefully, ethically, methodologically, precisely surgerically just like a doctor treating a patient with tumor.
    Seems like my hope is in vain. You can't battle Communism with dialectics because Communism was created by applying dialectical philosophy to economics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    I wouldn't say it was successful. The Soviets won because Hitler was an arm chair general telling experienced men what to do. If he had left his generals alone instead of making one foolish mistake after another the results would have been different.

    Think of this: if the German army had portrayed themselves as liberators of the Russian people from Communist/Stalin rule instead of the harsh measures they took how many of those Soviet soldiers would have switched sides? Who would a person prefer to fight? The army who claims they're there to liberate the Russian people from Communism or your supposed comrades who will shoot you even if you fall back because a position simply can't be held?

    There is a difference between running away and falling back to take up a position with better support than the position you currently hold.
    This x100^


    The greatest fault of Hitler is that he started beliving in his own propaganda. He was an amazing organizer and demagogue, but he was worth a bucket of warm spit as a tactician and a strategist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    I hope you know that most of its history humanity lived under Communist formation in its primitive stage.



    Seems like my hope is in vain. You can't battle Communism with dialectics because Communism was created by applying dialectical philosophy to economics.
    I have been spreading the words that communism is not new, but a repackaging of ancient nihilism. You seem to echo my idea here. Marxism is pseudo-dialecticism, I hope you realize that Karl Marx failed to explain his economic theories, he had no proficient understanding of economy and scientific theories of his time as he used those theories elaborately in critical rhetorics against classical philosophy and theories. Dialecticism in fact had been stagnated since Bertrand Russell`s breakthrough in scientific ethics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post

    On September 12, 1941, Joseph Stalin issued the Stavka Directive No. 1919 (Директива Ставки ВГК №001919) concerning the creation of barrier troops in rifle divisions of the Southwestern Front, to suppress panic retreats. Each Red Army division was to have an anti-retreat detachment equipped with transport totalling one company for each regiment. Their primary goal was to maintain strict military discipline and to prevent disintegration of the front line by any means, including the use of machine guns to indiscriminately shoot any personnel retreating without authorization.
    Possibly this practice was used even before Dir.№1919. and creating of barrier troops

    Order №.270 of 16 Aug.1941


    These shameful facts surrender our sworn enemy suggests that the Red Army, bravely and selflessly protect them from their vile invaders Soviet Motherland, there are unstable, cowardly, cowardly elements. And these cowardly elements are not only among the Red Army, but also among the commanding staff. As you know, some commanders and political workers by their behavior, not only at the front of the Red Army did not show a sample of courage, strength and love of country, and vice versa hide in crevices in the offices are busy, do not see and do not observe the field of battle, and when the first serious challenges to combat shrink from the enemy, tear off his insignia, a deserter from the battlefield.

    Can we put up with in the Red Army cowards, deserters who surrender themselves to the enemy as prisoners or their craven superiors, who at the first hitch on the front tear off their insignia and desert to the rear? No we can not! If we unleash these cowards and deserters they, in a very short time, will destroy our country. Cowards and deserters must be destroyed.


    Encircled units and formations to selflessly fight to the last, to protect materiel like the apple of their eye, to break through from the rear of enemy troops, defeating the fascist dogs.


    That every soldier is obliged, regardless of his or her position, to demand that their superiors, if part of their unit is surrounded, to fight to the end, to break through, and if a superior or a unit of the Red Army – instead of organizing resistance to the enemy – prefers to become a prisoner they should be destroyed by all means possible on land and air, and their families deprived of public benefits and assistance.
    DE OPPRESSO LIBER


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    I hope you know that most of its history humanity lived under Communist formation in its primitive stage.
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    No that's a lie you Commie, we arent evolved baboons. Private property and women belonging to one man instead of to everybody existed since humans started their existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexachordia View Post
    I have been spreading the words that communism is not new, but a repackaging of ancient nihilism. You seem to echo my idea here. Marxism is pseudo-dialecticism, I hope you realize that Karl Marx failed to explain his economic theories, he had no proficient understanding of economy and scientific theories of his time as he used those theories elaborately in critical rhetorics against classical philosophy and theories. Dialecticism in fact had been stagnated since Bertrand Russell`s breakthrough in scientific ethics.
    Idea of hunter-gatherer's primitive societies being Communist in their economic basis is one of the first thesis of Marxism. It's called Primitive Communism, google it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    No that's a lie you Commie, we arent evolved baboons. Private property and women belonging to one man instead of to everybody existed since humans started their existence.
    You sure aren't evolved baboon. You still are baboon. Go and learn what Communism is about before you speak about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    You sure aren't evolved baboon. You still are baboon. Go and learn what Communism is about before you speak about it.
    lol you bastard I know what Communism is all about and dont buy its basic contents. You should have been among machine-gunned retreating troops by own fellows instead of here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    lol you bastard I know what Communism is all about and dont buy its basic contents.
    Oh really??? In such case you should've known there were both private property and woman belonging to one man in Communist Russia. Yet you spilling nonsense by repeating common ignorant myths.

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