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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    You can say that the Albanians are the Mary Poppins of the European world. No one knows where they came from, and really, it's a great enigma to both historians and archeologists.
    The most prominent theory is that they came about in the northern balkans, in the carpathian basin. The caucus theory is so disproven it's ridiculous that people still promote it. They are however, certainly not from Epirus.

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    Thanas Django, the Albanian hero.

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    Post them all , Don't let Neo-Greeks change history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekarotuinen View Post
    The most prominent theory is that they came about in the northern balkans, in the carpathian basin. The caucus theory is so disproven it's ridiculous that people still promote it. They are however, certainly not from Epirus.

    Prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen B View Post
    Of course he is. I'm mocking them. They weren't even that informed that Diakos wasn't his surname, rather than a nickname of Deacon, so they tried to Albanized it , with this hilarious naming : Tanas Djako.

    (Sidenote: There is also Djako surname in Togo, so , I guess he is originally a Togolese )
    I have no doubt. Probably you know well this issue of Togo because if i am not wrone, you are from Zakynthos. This mean that you have African ancestry. Of course, later mixed with Turks, Venetians, etc. This admixtures are visible in the specific traits of your face. So, could be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    You can say that the Albanians are the Mary Poppins of the European world. No one knows where they came from, and really, it's a great enigma to both historians and archeologists.
    Many of them have been imported from Caucasus Albania, first by the Byzantines, but most by Turks. There are many Caucasian Albanians, Circassian Albanians. Meanwhile in Albania were living Greeks, Sicilians and Normans in the North and these people they forcefully assimilated during Ottoman times. None of these people were Slavs. Having less Slavic than Bulgarians say, does not make them more "pure" or "indigenous" Balkanites or less mongrelised.

    There are two different and opposed notions of Albanians, their origin and historical role.
    First,from the 11 century to the Berlin Congress in 1878, Albanians are Caucasian people,brought in the Balkan in mid-11th century, and second , from this date to today.
    "Children Caucasus," wrote the medieval writer Magius Patavius.

    It is a HISTORICAL fact that not one Byzantine historian ever mentioned any people such as the Albanians. Despite the fact they meticusly recorded every single small tribe in the Balkans. Even the most insignificant.

    Even their language shows remarkably similarity to Caucasian languages. ONLY the Arvanite language shows similarities to Greece because you guessed it...the indigenous peoples were the Greeks who never at any point in history identified as "Albanians".

    Arbanites are not same people like Shqiptars.
    Arbani(tes) are the people who lived in the Balkan region before the arrival of Shqiptars.
    Historical sources mention Albanians only in the Middle Ages..not before

    The Albanians call themselves "Shqip-tari".
    This name is not Indo-European in origin and contains in it the Ural-Altaic suffix "ar" or "tar".
    Much like: "Khaz-AR", "Av-AR", "Magy-AR", "Bulg-AR", "Hung-AR", "Ta-TAR" - "Ship-TAR".
    Taken together with the Shqiptar-Albanian toponyms on the territory of the former Caucasian Albania, this theory on the etymology of "Shqipatr" becomes more plausable.

    The original Caucasian Shqiptar-Albanians were part of the AVAR KHANATE which had one of its early capitals in Caucasian Albania (hence Albanian topnyms there, the possible Ural-Altaic etymology of the suffix in the word "Shqip-tar" and the similarities in national costume with Caucasian peoples - the non-Indo-European Georgians, in particular).

    CHECHENIA=ICHQERIA and ALBANIA=SHQIPTERIA

    lists of common Caucasus-Albanians words:

    Chechen=naana,Albanian=nene,English=mother
    Udi,Udish=Baba,Albanian=babe,English=father
    Chechen=Ysh ,Albanian=Ishin,english=they were
    Chechen=shu,Albanian=ju,English=you
    Chechen=Vasha,Albanian=Vella,English=Brother
    Udish=Pasc,Albanian=Perjashtoj,English=Rule(In)
    Udish=Haq,Albanian=Plak,English=Old
    Udish=egene,Albanian=nese,English=If
    Udish=Marak,Albanian=Rezik,English=Peril
    Udish=Kalaka,Albanian=Qytet,English=City
    Udish=Bure,Albanian=Pare,English=Watch
    Udish=Ar,Albanian=Aq,English=Many
    Udish=Uxt,Albanian=Uje,English=Water
    Udish=Ug,Albanian=Nga,English=From
    Chechen=Cha'aara,Albanian=Hale,English=Fish
    Udish=Mus,Albanian=Madh,English=Big
    Udish=Gar,Albanian=Djal,English=Son
    Udish=Dilag,Albanian=Deshiroj,English=Wish
    Udish=Bakayn,Albanian=Behem,Englisg=Become
    Chechen=Iighana,Albanian=Inatosur,English=Angry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laberia View Post
    I have no doubt. Probably you know well this issue of Togo because if i am not wrone, you are from Zakynthos. This mean that you have African ancestry. Of course, later mixed with Turks, Venetians, etc. This admixtures are visible in the specific traits of your face. So, could be.
    So, Zakynthos which has never been part of Ottomans was mixed with turks and africans, but Albanians who even converted to islam are pure

    I guess Turkish admixture arrived in Zakynthos through the air

    those albanians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekarotuinen View Post
    The most prominent theory is that they came about in the northern balkans, in the carpathian basin. The caucus theory is so disproven it's ridiculous that people still promote it. They are however, certainly not from Epirus.
    Please don't derail this thread. If you can give your contribution, OK. If you are interested in other topics, you are free to open new threads.
    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    Ohh, Albanians are Europeans? I never knew that considering that your kind in terms of culture and mentality are far more similar to Turks than to other Europeans. Please, enlighten me on why do you have a Greek general as your avatar?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedo...ellenistic_era

    Also, explain to me on why do you cite sources that are over 100 years old? You do realize that we're in the 21st century, right? I would like to see what modern historians think about the claims that you keep on preaching in this forum against the Greeks and other peoples you seem to hate and despise.
    How are Albanians similar with Turks?

    Also , what does it matter if the source is 100 years old?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ujku View Post
    Prove it.
    Prove to me the earth isnt flat.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Albanians

    Albanians most definitely arose north of Epirus and mosern Albania. Your people are more 'nordic' than greeks, so take prode in thay if you are a nordicist.

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