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Thread: Could Iberian E-V13 be Visigothic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    1) There is 0 evidence that Dorians came from Central Europe
    2)Slavs are very unlikely to have carried E V13
    The South Slavs who have E V13 got this likely from Pre Slavic native people living in the Balkan peninsular
    3) The Goth thing can be true or not
    Here my question stands again
    What are the haplogroups of Goths and their genetics ?
    Do we know?
    Do we have samples from ancient Goths to tell?
    Dont know but they probably had R1a,R1b,EV13 as haplogroups

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessWin View Post
    Dont know but they probably had R1a,R1b,EV13 as haplogroups
    Ok possible that they had EV13

    EV13 exists in Scandinavian countries but its low i think well they might have picked some additional up during their traveling routes
    as the OP said.

    The question is how much EV13 do they have compared to what exists in Iberia?

    If it is low compared to that in Iberia than its likely that E V13 existed in Iberia before Goths arrived.
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    I turned out as Z5018-Z16242 prevalent in England, I either have a very distant english ancestor (500 years ago) or it's a shared with iberians.

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Z16242/
    (I'm negative Z2162), Y20431 not tested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontero View Post
    I turned out as Z5018-Z16242 prevalent in England, I either have a very distant english ancestor (500 years ago) or it's a shared with iberians.

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-Z16242/
    (I'm negative Z2162), Y20431 not tested.
    Ok this is interesting
    The Talmud tells us that the only language the Torah could be translated into elegantly is Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    Ok this is interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    Ok possible that they had EV13

    EV13 exists in Scandinavian countries but its low i think well they might have picked some additional up during their traveling routes
    as the OP said.

    The question is how much EV13 do they have compared to what exists in Iberia?

    If it is low compared to that in Iberia than its likely that E V13 existed in Iberia before Goths arrived.
    the maps I posted are not showing anymore but they were like this


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontero View Post
    thanks


    the maps I posted are not showing anymore but they were like this


    Ok obviously there was Gothic presence in Spain thats even a well established fact and their genetic legacy is also there

    The question is would they be the main source of E V 13 in Spain?

    They might have picked some of this up in case they mixed with some people in South East Europe

    The question is how much?

    How much EV 13 does Spain have?

    Does it peak more in the Areas where Gothic presence,influence was stronger?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontero View Post
    thanks


    the maps I posted are not showing anymore but they were like this

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    you posted those maps wrong - look at your signature!
    do it like that










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    Quote Originally Posted by Aren View Post
    Romans > Germany/England > Scandinavia.
    That makes no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guede View Post
    you posted those maps wrong - look at your signature!
    do it like that










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    that's right

    but you forgot to flip East-West axis, fixed:

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