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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    I think these Arabian oryx would feel homey there:

    treasured symbol of the Arabian desert.
    Oryx was offered as cattle for Brazil, but their domestication was never well successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Segata Sanshiro View Post
    I'm curious about the incidence of Celtic toponyms too
    Celtic are obvious. More interesting would be slavic

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    Names that begin with Guadal- come from Arabic Wadi "river." I am reading Historia De La Lengua Espanhola in Spanish.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post
    Celtic are obvious. More interesting would be slavic
    Would there be Slavic toponyms? Would the Saqaliba had a strong enough effect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Segata Sanshiro View Post
    Would there be Slavic toponyms? Would the Saqaliba had a strong enough effect?
    Idk, this is why it is interesting.
    One Slav created even a kingdom there, so who knows...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    What are the biggest cities bearing arabic names?
    المجريط al-Maǧrīṭ. Madrid, Spain
    أشبيليّة ʼIšbīliyyaḧ. Seville, Spain
    برغش Burġuš. Burgos, Spain
    البسيط al-Basīṭ. Albacete, Spain
    بلنسيّة Balansiyyaḧ. Valencia, Spain
    بطليوس Baṭalyaws. Badajoz, Spain
    بنبلونة Banbalūnaḧ. Pamplona, Spain
    تيروال Tīrwāl. Teruel, Spain
    تطيلة Tuṭīlaḧ. Tudela, Navarre, Spain
    جرندة Ǧarundaḧ. Girona, Spain
    جيّان Ǧayyān. Jaén, Spain
    سرقسطة Saraqusṭaḧ. Zaragoza, Spain
    سمّورة Sammūraḧ. Zamora, Spain
    شانت ياقوب Šānt Yāqūb. Santiago de Compostela, Spain
    صخرة بلاي Ṣaḫraḧ Bilāy. Covadonga, Spain
    طرّاكونة Ṭarrākūnaḧ. Tarragona, Spain
    طرسونة Ṭarasūnaḧ. Tarazona, Spain
    طرطوشة Ṭurṭūšaḧ. Tortosa, Spain
    طريفة Ṭarīfaḧ. Tarifa, Spain
    طلبيرة Ṭalabayraḧ. Talavera de la Reina, Spain
    طليطلة Ṭulayṭulaḧ. Toledo, Spain
    غرناطة Ġarnāṭaḧ. Granada, Spain
    قادس Qādis. Cádiz, Spain
    قرطاجنة الحلفاء Qarṭāǧannaḧ al-Ḥalfāʼ. Cartagena, Spain
    قرطبه Qurṭubaḧ. Córdoba, Spain
    قرمونة Qarmūnaḧ. Carmona, Spain
    قلعة أيوب Qalʻaḧ ʼAyyūb. Calatayud, Spain
    قلهرة Qalahurraḧ. Calahorra, Spain
    قونكة Qūnkaḧ. Cuenca, Spain
    لاردة Lāridaḧ. Lleida, Spain
    القنت al-Laqant. Alicante, Spain
    لورقة Lawraqaḧ. Lorca, Spain
    ليّون Liyyūn. León, Spain
    ماردة Māridaḧ. Mérida, Spain
    مالقة Mālaqaḧ. Málaga, Spain
    مدينة شدونة Madīnaẗ Šadūnaḧ. Medina-Sidonia, Spain
    مرسيّة Mursiyyaḧ. Murcia, Spain
    المريّة al-Mariyyaḧ. Almería, Spain
    ناجرة Nāǧiraḧ. Nájera, Spain
    وادي الحجارة Wādī al-Ḥejāraḧ. Guadalajara, Spain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Óttar View Post
    Names that begin with Guadal- come from Arabic Wadi "river." I am reading Historia De La Lengua Espanhola in Spanish.
    Guad-
    Quat- (Cat-)
    Al-

    all prefixed of arabian names

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    Quote Originally Posted by Segata Sanshiro View Post
    Would there be Slavic toponyms? Would the Saqaliba had a strong enough effect?
    How are better known the "saqaliba" in spanish history? I've never heard mention them by spaniards. I suppose that the "saqaliba" refer to saka or scythians. I've a personal theory on iberi for example

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longobarda View Post
    المجريط al-Maǧrīṭ. Madrid, Spain
    أشبيليّة ʼIšbīliyyaḧ. Seville, Spain
    برغش Burġuš. Burgos, Spain
    البسيط al-Basīṭ. Albacete, Spain
    بلنسيّة Balansiyyaḧ. Valencia, Spain
    بطليوس Baṭalyaws. Badajoz, Spain
    بنبلونة Banbalūnaḧ. Pamplona, Spain
    تيروال Tīrwāl. Teruel, Spain
    تطيلة Tuṭīlaḧ. Tudela, Navarre, Spain
    جرندة Ǧarundaḧ. Girona, Spain
    جيّان Ǧayyān. Jaén, Spain
    سرقسطة Saraqusṭaḧ. Zaragoza, Spain
    سمّورة Sammūraḧ. Zamora, Spain
    شانت ياقوب Šānt Yāqūb. Santiago de Compostela, Spain
    صخرة بلاي Ṣaḫraḧ Bilāy. Covadonga, Spain
    طرّاكونة Ṭarrākūnaḧ. Tarragona, Spain
    طرسونة Ṭarasūnaḧ. Tarazona, Spain
    طرطوشة Ṭurṭūšaḧ. Tortosa, Spain
    طريفة Ṭarīfaḧ. Tarifa, Spain
    طلبيرة Ṭalabayraḧ. Talavera de la Reina, Spain
    طليطلة Ṭulayṭulaḧ. Toledo, Spain
    غرناطة Ġarnāṭaḧ. Granada, Spain
    قادس Qādis. Cádiz, Spain
    قرطاجنة الحلفاء Qarṭāǧannaḧ al-Ḥalfāʼ. Cartagena, Spain
    قرطبه Qurṭubaḧ. Córdoba, Spain
    قرمونة Qarmūnaḧ. Carmona, Spain
    قلعة أيوب Qalʻaḧ ʼAyyūb. Calatayud, Spain
    قلهرة Qalahurraḧ. Calahorra, Spain
    قونكة Qūnkaḧ. Cuenca, Spain
    لاردة Lāridaḧ. Lleida, Spain
    القنت al-Laqant. Alicante, Spain
    لورقة Lawraqaḧ. Lorca, Spain
    ليّون Liyyūn. León, Spain
    ماردة Māridaḧ. Mérida, Spain
    مالقة Mālaqaḧ. Málaga, Spain
    مدينة شدونة Madīnaẗ Šadūnaḧ. Medina-Sidonia, Spain
    مرسيّة Mursiyyaḧ. Murcia, Spain
    المريّة al-Mariyyaḧ. Almería, Spain
    ناجرة Nāǧiraḧ. Nájera, Spain
    وادي الحجارة Wādī al-Ḥejāraḧ. Guadalajara, Spain
    Many of them are not arabic.
    Burgos is gothic, Toledo is pre-Roman, Sevilla phoenician,
    Tarragona is at least from Roman period (Tarraco[na]) aso...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Many of them are not arabic.
    Burgos is gothic, Toledo is pre-Roman, Sevilla phoenician,
    Tarragona is at least from Roman period (Tarraco[na]) aso...
    Correct. Over the list (which is much longer than this) it says:

    This is a list of traditional Arabic place names. This list includes:
    Places involved in the history of the Arab world and the Arabic names given to them.
    Places whose official names include an Arabic form.
    Places whose names originate from the Arabic language.

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