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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    H1a is a Gypsy/Romani lineage
    Most Romanian posters here are H1a , most likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Most Romanian posters here are H1a , most likely.
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megadorian View Post
    efcharisto, den ixera(LT)
    no problem aderfe. parempiptontws to T1 vrethike se skeletous apo neolithikous oikismous se vulgaria kai germania.

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    I2a-din is really high in Toskeria when compared to Ghegenia though
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    J1 is a semiticized lineage as proto-semites were E-M34 but the natives in the fertile crescent were J2 and J1 meaning that the Semites absorbed it upon their arrival and it was further spread during the Hellenic and Roman conquests
    True considering that both today's Arabians and Egyptians cluster very closely together, and they cluster the closest to the neolithic and early bronze age levantines in contrast to other peoples of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    True considering that both today's Arabians and Egyptians cluster very closely together, and they cluster the closest to the neolithic and early bronze age levantines in contrast to other peoples of the world.
    Most Arabs from the Levant or Mesopotamia are in fact Arabized natives, but the Arabs in Saudi Arabia and the Arabian peninsula are pure Arabs IMO
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Most Arabs from the Levant or Mesopotamia are in fact Arabized natives, but the Arabs in Saudi Arabia and the Arabian peninsula are pure Arabs IMO
    You can say that, but of course, Arabization came with admixture with the locals which is why the Muslims tend to cluster more closer to Arabia and north Africa in contrast to the Christians and other genetically isolated groups like the Druze. I'm an Arabized Levantine for the most part genetically, lol. The reason why me and other predominately genetically Levantine peoples today cluster more further away from the ancient neolithic Levantines and early Bronze age Levantines is due because the Levantine genetic structure became more northern as the west Asiatic migrants from Anatolia and Iran began migrating their during the late bronze age and early Iron age periods. The Levantines ancestors of both Egyptians and Arabians left the Levant in the second wave where they were very Levantine with some west Asiatic admixture.

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    PCA chart of an ancient Semitic speaker from the early bronze age in North-West Jordan:


    Using Global 10...

    Jordan_EBA:I1705

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Saudi Egyptian Assyrian Tunisian
    0.01688859 0.02702003 0.04230395 0.05042037
    Algerian Moroccan Ethiopian_Amhara Ethiopian_Tigray
    0.05977330 0.06250903 0.06827656 0.06843083


    Jordan_EBA:I1706

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Saudi Egyptian Assyrian Tunisian
    0.01121590 0.02529517 0.04461211 0.04794086
    Algerian Moroccan Ethiopian_Tigray Ethiopian_Amhara
    0.05747952 0.05955161 0.06446322 0.06449131


    Jordan_EBA:I1730

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Saudi Egyptian Assyrian Tunisian
    0.01660947 0.02594147 0.04452045 0.04673384
    Algerian Moroccan Ethiopian_Amhara Ethiopian_Tigray
    0.05612227 0.05860530 0.06685817 0.06699568


    All three Jordan_EBA samples are closer to contemporary (understand non-Coptic, SSA-admixed, muslim) Egyptians.

    Levant_Neolithic:I0867

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Saudi Egyptian Tunisian Moroccan
    0.03566195 0.04554086 0.04641960 0.05063521
    Algerian Saharawi Ethiopian_Amhara Ethiopian_Tigray
    0.05151626 0.05912316 0.07079567 0.07148614


    Levant_Neolithic:I1699

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Saudi Egyptian Tunisian Moroccan
    0.03387947 0.04357623 0.04656148 0.05174627
    Algerian Saharawi Ethiopian_Amhara Ethiopian_Tigray
    0.05200293 0.06092333 0.07082936 0.07146232


    Levant_Neolithic:I1704

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Saudi Egyptian Tunisian Moroccan
    0.03183015 0.03921102 0.03989456 0.04466378
    Algerian Saharawi Ethiopian_Amhara Ethiopian_Tigray
    0.04533574 0.05414230 0.06520587 0.06581918


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