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    "The Mediterranean shores stretching between Sicily, Southern Italy and the Southern Balkans witnessed a long series of migration processes and cultural exchanges. Accordingly, present-day population diversity is composed by multiple genetic layers, which make the deciphering of different ancestral and historical contributes particularly challenging. We address this issue by genotyping 511 samples from 23 populations of Sicily, Southern Italy, Greece and Albania with the Illumina GenoChip Array, also including new samples from Albanian- and Greek-speaking ethno-linguistic minorities of Southern Italy. Our results reveal a shared Mediterranean genetic continuity, extending from Sicily to Cyprus, where Southern Italian populations appear genetically closer to Greek-speaking islands than to continental Greece. Besides a predominant Neolithic background, we identify traces of Post-Neolithic Levantine- and Caucasus-related ancestries, compatible with maritime Bronze-Age migrations. We argue that these results may have important implications in the cultural history of Europe, such as in the diffusion of some Indo-European languages. Instead, recent historical expansions from North-Eastern Europe account for the observed differentiation of present-day continental Southern Balkan groups. Patterns of IBD-sharing directly reconnect Albanian-speaking Arbereshe with a recent Balkan-source origin, while Greek-speaking communities of Southern Italy cluster with their Italian-speaking neighbours suggesting a long-term history of presence in Southern Italy."


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    See this too. Trapani has the most "Euro" ancestry in Sicily, while Palermo is the least!!! Enna is a regular East Sicilian population.

    So much for 'Norman' Palermo. Palermo is the most exotic sample.

    Crete is like another Sicilian population.


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    This thread is a big "I told you so!" to the Greek posters. Haha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MINARD777 View Post
    This thread is a big "I told you so!" to the Greek posters. Haha!
    Here is the other PCA. Also a big "told you so!" to the people going on about Palermo being so Norman. No. Palermo has the least 'Euro-like" ancestry on that chart and actually is the most Near Eastern.


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    "GRK_AEI" is the Aegean islands, other than Crete. They are more Caucasian than the Sicilians/Cretans, but the least Near Eastern (Levant, Arabian, etc.). But they are still within the same continuum and closely related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MINARD777 View Post
    This thread is a big "I told you so!" to the Greek posters. Haha!
    Can you elaborate? I'm new here

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    These foreign "influences" are always overestimated, unless there is hundred thousands of people settling in a place totally assimilated, or huge founder effects, it's never as significant as people believe. To change a whole country, even an island's genetic, you need a lot more than like a ruling class or cultural influences.

    They also hint at a Levantine_BA input, they are really slow to understand this... when it's pretty obvious to see there is something like that, at least they finally begin to get it in several studies lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    They also hint at a Levantine_BA input, they are really slow to understand this... when it's pretty obvious to see there is something like that, at least they finally begin to get it in several studies lately.
    I think the largest Levantine influence in Sicily and southern Italy happened between 6000 BC and year 0.

    Do you see any surprises in the PCA or admixture chart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    I think the largest Levantine influence in Sicily and southern Italy happened between 6000 BC and year 0.

    Do you see any surprises in the PCA or admixture chart?
    The pca looks as usual, except the two samples on the left, they seem inbred from what they describe but i wonder if they are not like a relic of this new peloponnese neolithic sample (the pca needs to be rotated counter clockwise to make sense).

    Something unrelated i already noticed in several calculators is that Gheg looks very early neo, and low near eastern, it's imo where this whole additional Levant_BA stops to be at relevant levels but maybe still a bit of Chalcolithic/Caucasus (outside of the steppe's caucasus)

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    What's going on with the Griko from Calabria? They have even less "European" than do Sicilians, Italian-speaking Calabrese, Cretans, and Dodecanese (GR_AEI).

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