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Thread: Sarno et al 2017: South Italians and Greek islanders plot together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    What is also interesting is Sicilians and Aegean islanders are equidistant from Cypriots, because Sicilians better match them in Near East/Natufian but Aegean islanders better match them in Caucasus.

    Cypriots seem to be closer in this study to South Italy/Crete/Aegean than to the Levant actually.
    the only thing that separates the balkan from the sicilian-greek island clusters is the difference in Near eastern and Slavic admixture. basically just an artificial-theoretical separation that gets overemphasized by all studies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    the only thing that separates the balkan from the sicilian-greek island clusters is the difference in Near eastern and Slavic admixture. basically just an artificial-theoretical separation that gets overemphasized by all studies.
    If you removed the Slavic input from the mainland, the difference between mainland and islands would be mostly in the red Near East component, which was likely never much higher than it is today.

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    I wish I could put numbers to this but based on looking with my eyes, the highest Near East element seems to be Agrigento > Palermo/Catania > Calabria but it's more or less evenly dispersed in Sicily/Calabria, minus Trapani which has just slightly more than Crete.

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    Greek islanders plot with mainland Greeks the closest. Because - Duh.

    QueenB posted a set of Greeks and you could not answer who is from who.
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    And Cyprus has continuum with Levant but this is overlooked for some reasons and continuum surprisedly 'cut, there..

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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Greek islanders plot with mainland Greeks the closest.
    Genetically, they do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Genetically, they do not.
    Then you need to reasses the garbage you read because genetically they do (due to islanders migrating to main land and vice versa)
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    this thread makes me remeber that i've visited the Delphi Oracle 4 years ago on the Parnasus Mountain; suposedly that place is where some southern italians's ancestors decided to depart to colonize southern italy

    even if still Greeks faces types-structure seem to me different from the ones of southern italians that have their own faces


    i realized how many people decided to depart with the aid of the oracle to southern italy

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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Then you need to reasses the garbage you read because genetically they do (due to islanders migrating to main land and vice versa)
    Did you not read this study?

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    First of all it doesn't make clear from which islands was the sample, cause nearly half of Aegean samples I have seen (cyclades and North Aegean) are clearly closer to pelloponese than to Sicily

    Second,in the diagram "continental Greece" is equidistant between south Italy and Albania, I guess even closer to central Italy

    Anyway, there have obviously been significantly more levantine colonisations in some islands than in mainland, and the closer you go to middle east, the more impact in your dna

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