Sarno et al 2017: South Italians and Greek islanders plot together.

[Percivalle]

So you think Trapani may have always been different?.

If the academic sample from Trapani is accurate, it could be. A Bronze Age Bell Beaker input, when the population was small, it can have its weight, surely greater than a migration of paysants from Apulia in the Middle Ages. Obviously this is a conjecture.

[Sikeliot]

If the academic sample from Trapani is accurate, it could be. A Bronze Age Bell Beaker input, when the population was small, it can have its weight, surely greater than a migration of paysants from Apulia in the Middle Ages. Obviously this is a conjecture.

Here is an example, this is Dodecad K12b. This person is from inland Trapani. The reason they are different is the Atlanto-Med can be higher than the Caucasus, whereas in other regions, Caucasus is always 30%+ and in some cases close to 40%.

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 31.67
2 Caucasus 29.19
3 North_European 13.9
4 Southwest_Asian 13.44
5 Gedrosia 5.7
6 Northwest_African 4.57
7 East_African 0.83
8 Sub_Saharan 0.46
9 South_Asian 0.24

[Sikeliot]

Also of note, Ashkenazi Jews plot closer to islanders than to the south Italian cluster. The authors call it a continuum anyway, from Sicily to Cyprus, through Crete and the Dodecannese (their words).

The North African and Sephardi Jews are closer to the southern Italians though. Southern Italians and these Jews are closer to the Levantines, and the Cretans/Dodecanese shift toward the Caucasus.

[XenophobicPrussian]

Besides a predominant Neolithic background, we identify traces of Post-Neolithic Levantine- and Caucasus-related ancestries, compatible with maritime Bronze-Age migrations.

Didn't need a new study to tell you this, was already known for awhile(to everyone except Italicroots).

Italicroots: Irrelevant guys, it came in 2000 BC, not recently, that means we're still 100% European!

Jesus, these people really either need to stop hating on MENAs, become racial egalitarian blank-slate SJWs or accept the hierarchy.

[Sikeliot]

Didn't need a new study to tell you this, was already known for awhile(to everyone except Italicroots).

Yes.

Here is the full plot. The middle pink circle is Cyprus. The lighter red are Sicily and southern Italy, with the ones closest to Cyprus being Sicilians. It appears the Sicilians, Cypriots, and North African Jews shift to the Levant, while the Cretans/Dodecanese are a tiny bit more Caucasian. I do not see an "east" vs "west" division like Tacitus claims.

[pmv74]

The North African and Sephardi Jews are closer to the southern Italians though. Southern Italians and these Jews are closer to the Levantines, and the Cretans/Dodecanese shift toward the Caucasus.

Sikeliot, I agree that North Africa and Sephardi Jews are similar to southern Italians/Sicilian such as myself. Most of the calculators peg me as Southern Italian or Eastern Sicilian as my closest regions but after that I usually get a lot of North African Jewish, Sephardic Jewish or even ashkanazi jewish


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[Sikeliot]

Sikeliot, I agree that North Africa and Sephardi Jews are similar to southern Italians/Sicilian such as myself. Most of the calculators peg me as Southern Italian or Eastern Sicilian as my closest regions but after that I usually get a lot of North African Jewish, Sephardic Jewish or even ashkanazi jewish


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Yes. I definitely think Western Jews, Sicilians, Calabrese, and island Greeks are close.