Which is generally more important to people's identities and cultures: race/ethnicity or nation?

[Annie999]

I say both, nationality is obviously an important factor but also ethnicity (culture). To give you an example; Im from Uruguay and my fiance from Argentina, 2 different countries, however culturally speaking his city and my city have pretty much the same culture, so even we're from different countries we feel we're part of the same thing. However there are parts in my country and his country that are foreign to both of us, so ethnically speaking we're more similar to each other than to other parts of our own countries. That's why I think ethnicity is also important.

EDIT: The poll is wrong as you didn't include ethnicity there, only race and I couldn't care less about race. Thought I should clarify that.

[Guru]

Ethnicity in times of peace nationality in times of war

[Isleño]

Nationality for me, I never cared about someone's racial background at all

Like for example, I would have much more in common with some mestizo in Veracruz than a white mexican from Sonora, because cultural speaking, Jarocho culture is very different from Sonoran culture
but of course I feel a lot more closer to Mexicans regardless of their racial background than someone from my same racial background, I wouldnt have anything in common with that person other than our racial makeup
the same applies to America, I feel a lot more closer to Californians than to others in America

but when I traveled to Europe, I was pretty happy meeting other Americans of my age in for example Germany or Holland, regardless of their racial background and even more when they happened to be from Southern California
I can relate more with an American from Southern California than some American from Michigan

This happens to me too when I travel and meet another American. It's like I feel joy to come across another American in any other country I visit. Nationality does bond people. Like Zhao said, it's the way you live, the way you think, the way you act, the way you talk etc. It's quintessentially American.

[Isleño]

I dont know how the rest of the world sees it but in Germany i have feeling mixed people are accepted as fully german, but people wouldnt say that mullatos are white, but they dont define their ethnicity solely on racial grounds eventhough they do too a little bit, a german is usually "white" with german ancestry/heritage but a mullato is still a german or afro-german. similar as what i said about this afro-gypsy woman, who is accepted as fully gypsy. elena andujar, her mother is a gitana from sevilla and her father is a new yorkan mullato, and she is fully gypsy. in america its impossible to seperate culture from race, because of racial segregation it would be impossible for her to be WASP culturally and ethnically because thats very tied to race, but in germany she could be german.

http://www.dromnyc.com/events/1945/n...r#.WRz2smiGOM8

Well she could be culturally WASP, but not ethnically. There are lots of non-WASP people that are culturally WASP. Large amounts of what we view as traditional American culture is WASP. I usually just think of WASPs as English descendants, I don't really think of them as all the non-Hispanic whites lumped into a WASP category like some, there are some Americans that view them as such. But you could be culturally anything in the US and not be that ethnicity. If you came to the US as a child and came to live in my community, you'd be culturally Louisiana Canarian Spanish, but not ethnically/racially.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Nationality per se means nothing. I would say it's a mix of race and culture.

[Mortimer]

Well she could be culturally WASP, but not ethnically. There are lots of non-WASP people that are culturally WASP. Large amounts of what we view as traditional American culture is WASP. I usually just think of WASPs as English descendants, I don't really think of them as all the non-Hispanic whites lumped into a WASP category like some, there are some Americans that view them as such. But you could be culturally anything in the US and not be that ethnicity. If you came to the US as a child and came to live in my community, you'd be culturally Louisiana Canarian Spanish, but not ethnically/racially.

but people would say "you act white" or you are a "coconut" etc. its not the same what i mean

[Isleño]

but people would say "you act white" or you are a "coconut" etc. its not the same what i mean

Who cares what those small-minded people think or say. Their word or opinion is just that, opinion. What they say don't make it so. Maybe you care what people think, I don't know. I could care less what people think, I'm gonna do me regardless. I'm an Alpha male, I don't care about what people think. I care about what I think.

[Fractal]

BOTH and anyone who says otherwise is deluded.

[jatt]

both

[TrueIndepence]

I think it is race. I have far more in common with any Mulatto or Black person than I do with any White person no matter where they came from. Even if they are from my neighborhood, they are not a part of my group.