Which is generally more important to people's identities and cultures: race/ethnicity or nation?

[Isleño]

Yes the "Hispanic race" is the biggest nonsense of the lot. Why don't they just ask for Mestizos and let that be that? Nevertheless, that does in a roundabout way bring me back to my basic question: would two Cuban immigrants in the USA - one White and one Black - feel they have more in common with each other, or would they identify more strongly with White and Black Americans respectively?

Yes, there should be mestizo and mulatto as a category and do away with identifying people as Hispanic or non-Hispanic. But then again, if they did that, the white percentage would go down. Because you'd have these deranged white Americans that have a Native American ancestor story claiming to be mestizos. Look at US Senator Elizabeth Warren claiming to be Native American when she looks completely European. She the laughing stock, lol Trump dubbed her Pocahontas. Most white Americans or black Americans do not have Amerind ancestry, and if they do, it's not significant it's only like a percent or less.

What happens when you have Hispanic vs. non-Hispanic, it divides people, including people of the same race.

[Tooting Carmen]

but usa is a new world country

OK: do ethnic Roma in Turkey feel they have more in common with other Turks, or with ethnic Roma in the Czech Republic?

[Hadouken]

OK: do ethnic Romani in Turkey feel they have more in common with other Turks, or with ethnic Romani in the Czech Republic?

I dont know tbh.

but interesting question

[Tooting Carmen]

I dont know that tbh.

but interesting question

I asked that because you said that the USA is different for being a 'New World' country, so I tried to find an equivalent question for 'Old World' countries, i.e. do Roma have more in common with each other regardless of nationality, or with the majority ethnicities of their own particular countries?

[Hadouken]

I asked that because you said that the USA is different for being a 'New World' country, so I tried to find an equivalent question for 'Old World' countries, i.e. do Romani have more in common with each other regardless of nationality, or with the majority ethnicities of their own particular countries?

yeah good question . unfortunately I cant answer that

but roma are a bit of a "special" case tbh. because of the diaspora they have etc.

[Tooting Carmen]

yeah good question . unfortunately I cant answer that

but roma are a bit of a "special" case tbh. because of the diaspora they have etc.

How about Kurds then? Does a Turkish Kurd have more in common with an Iraqi or Iranian Kurd, or with other Turks?

[Hadouken]

How about Kurds then? Does a Turkish Kurd have more in common with an Iraqi or Iranian Kurd, or with other Turks?

depends on the kurd . there is no clear cut answer to this . some feel like this others like that etc.

[Isleño]

to me nationality is not important, i even changed my nationality 15 years ago, i hand back my serbian nationality/citizenship and gained the austrian (i had to do this because austria doesnt allow dual citizenship) but i will never be austrian even my best friends think of me as foreigner, just two weeks ago when i went out for a drink with my best friend she said "when are you going back home for a visit again are you going this summer" so she thinks my home is in serbia not in austria. but thats normal. she is not racist at all. so nationality is not important to me at all. culture and ethnicity are equally important to me, i dont even believe in race all humans are the same race/species but there are different ethnicities.

I also believe in one human race, but I also believe race is real and what we call race are those ethnicities you describe. I think there is a wording discrepancy. But it's the same principle. Notice different races are susceptible to different diseases or medical conditions, there is a big enough difference between Humans genetically for this to happen. I think that a small percent of Human DNA is enough to create such differences known as race. We share 50% of our DNA with a banana, that's how powerful just a small amount of DNA can be, obviously we are not bananas (lol well most of us are not, can't speak for some people here haha) All caterpillars are caterpillars, but after evolution inside of a cocoon, is the hatched butterfly still a caterpillar?

As for your living situation in Austria, that must suck. Why do you put up with it? I would have went home.

[Isleño]

but usa is a new world country

True, race is more important in new world countries than old world I believe.

[Al-Meksiki]

Yes the "Hispanic race" is the biggest nonsense of the lot. Why don't they just ask for Mestizos and let that be that? Nevertheless, that does in a roundabout way bring me back to my basic question: would two Cuban immigrants in the USA - one White and one Black - feel they have more in common with each other, or would they identify more strongly with White and Black Americans respectively?

Hispanic is sort of like the concept of Arab. It's a panethnic identity that encompasses various nationalities, races, and cultures, and is largely defined by lingustic and metacultural grounds.