Which is generally more important to people's identities and cultures: race/ethnicity or nation?

[Hadouken]

True, race is more important in new world countries than old world I believe.

dont know if it is more "important" in general or not but for identity it is more important in the old world countries I wanted to say with exceptions of countries like France maybe lol

[Isleño]

Good question indeed. If both were hardcore racists they'd say the White or Black Cubans, but otherwise they'd say each other, especially assuming they spoke little or no Spanish.

Good answer. I feel the same. But by that same token, race relations happened in Cuba too, so the same answer could be given there. If they were race oriented or not.

[Mortimer]

I also believe in one human race, but I also believe race is real and what we call race are those ethnicities you describe. I think there is a wording discrepancy. But it's the same principle. Notice different races are susceptible to different diseases or medical conditions, there is a big enough difference between Humans genetically for this to happen. I think that a small percent of Human DNA is enough to create such differences known as race. We share 50% of our DNA with a banana, that's how powerful just a small amount of DNA can be, obviously we are not bananas (lol well most of us are not, can't speak for some people here haha) All caterpillars are caterpillars, but after evolution inside of a cocoon, is the hatched butterfly still a caterpillar?

As for your living situation in Austria, that must suck. Why do you put up with it? I would have went home.

I see "race" more through culture and ancestry then strictly biologically determined. Also I dont want to put racial labels on myself or my people because we are mixed race and dont fit fully in a larger racial grouping we are also diverse, I see it more through culture and ancestry/heritage. Also I accept mixed race people for example half romani half african american like this woman
http://www.dromnyc.com/events/1945/n...r#.WRvD32iGOM8

Also in Serbia I would experience as much racism as in Austria and in Austria I live a better life then I would in Serbia. Also i dont consider it that "terrible" that she said my home is not in Austria, Im aware that im not austrian and dont take offense.

[Isleño]

dont know if it is more "important" or not but for identity it is more important in the old world countries I wanted to say with exceptions of countries like France maybe lol

You think race is more important in the old world?

Speaking of France, I once had a conversation with Rudel and he said in a hypothetical situation, he'd rather see France black and French speaking with French culture, than white European without the French language or culture. So to him, culture was more important than race. That leads me to believe, at least some Europeans don't feel a racial kinship with other Europeans or awareness.

However, I've watched videos on YouTube of Europeans saying they don't want any immigrants, but if they had to choose, they would take the white European immigrants over the non-white immigrants. So in that case, there was some sort of European kinship, possibly on racial lines.

If you asked the same question to an American, he may choose the same race different culture rather than different race, same culture. Possibly, but not always. It may depend on the person or political views.

[Shah-Jehan]

How about Kurds then? Does a Turkish Kurd have more in common with an Iraqi or Iranian Kurd, or with other Turks?

ethnicities are different than race though. You should've addressed the question differently.

[Mortimer]

ethnicities are different than race though. You should've addressed the question differently.

his question is quiete eurocentric, many people outside europe dont think in "race" i know i dont

[Shah-Jehan]

his question is quiete eurocentric, many people outside europe dont think in "race" i know i dont

True, there's no word for race in my language or even concept for it. Similar concepts would be more based on culture/geography.

[Isleño]

I see "race" more through culture and ancestry then strictly biologically determined. Also I dont want to put racial labels on myself or my people because we are mixed race and dont fit fully in a larger racial grouping we are also diverse, I see it more through culture and ancestry/heritage. Also I accept mixed race people for example half romani half african american like this woman
http://www.dromnyc.com/events/1945/n...r#.WRvD32iGOM8

Also in Serbia I would experience as much racism as in Austria and in Austria I live a better life then I would in Serbia. Also i dont consider it that "terrible" that she said my home is not in Austria, Im aware that im not austrian and dont take offense.

I understand. I think our views on race differ slightly, but not that far off.

As for your living situation, if you are treated better in Austria, it's probably best you stay there. It must feel terrible that your people don't have a homeland where you don't have to worry about discrimination, where you could go and everyone looks like you. I'm not for the ill-treatment of any race of Human beings. It's wrong. Sorry to hear about your ills.

[Mortimer]

I understand. I think our views on race differ slightly, but not that far off.

As for your living situation, if you are treated better in Austria, it's probably best you stay there. It must feel terrible that your people don't have a homeland where you don't have to worry about discrimination, where you could go and everyone looks like you. I'm not for the ill-treatment of any race of Human beings. It's wrong. Sorry to hear about your ills.

Thanks but im not really that ill treated,maybe "microaggressions" (what liberals call it) up to verbal abuse like a racial slur (but rarerly etc.). Thats it, it wouldnt be better anywhere else.

[Freeroostah]

Nationality for the remaining anti-NWO countries and race for the open-border western melting pot countries