Not a Cop's autosomal opus.

[Not a Cop]

Following text is a result of couple years of my interest in populational genetics, main purporse of it is to share my expereince of dealing with autosamal services and tools.

I'm lucky enough to live into my twenties having all of my grandparents alive, so i decided to test them all to get a clearer picture.


Grandparents ancestry:

1. P g-mother - Volkhovsky district of Leningrad oblast' for last 3 generations.

2. P g-father - 1\2 Baltic german with ancetry traces on all line down to Early 18 century, only german surnames so far. 1\4 Russian from Velikie Luki (Pskov Oblast') 1\4 Polish from Lakhva village (Southern Belarus).

3. M g-mother - 3\4 Russian, 1\4 Polish from Vilno.

4. M g-father - 1\2 Kursk, 1\2 Volga region Russian.


All of the following result will go in that order, with my results going last.

Ftdna results (should be noted that i haven't done a test, but transmitted my results from 23andme):

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Ancient Origins:

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Dna Land:

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Eurogenes K15:

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North_Sea 25.58
Atlantic 13.14
Baltic 26.78
Eastern_Euro 25.15
West_Med 1.83
West_Asian 1.87
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.46
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 3.55
Amerindian 0.37
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.26



1 North_Sea 28.89
2 Baltic 21.27
3 Atlantic 20.99
4 Eastern_Euro 14.03
5 West_Asian 6.29
6 West_Med 5.77
7 South_Asian 1.85
8 Amerindian 0.33
9 East_Med 0.31
10 Siberian 0.27


1 Baltic 27.98
2 Eastern_Euro 21.16
3 North_Sea 20.17
4 Atlantic 14.68
5 West_Med 5.37
6 West_Asian 5
7 Red_Sea 1.67
8 Siberian 1.51
9 Amerindian 1.35
10 Oceanian 1.1
11 East_Med 0.01


North_Sea 19.29
Atlantic 17.01
Baltic 30.97
Eastern_Euro 17.88
West_Med 2.74
West_Asian 7.50
East_Med -
Red_Sea 0.80
South_Asian 1.80
Southeast_Asian 0.19
Siberian 0.35
Amerindian 0.27
Oceanian 1.20
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -




North_Sea 25.39
Atlantic 13.11
Baltic 26.16
Eastern_Euro 20.41
West_Med 2.46
West_Asian 7.30
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.06
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.68
Amerindian 1.71
Oceanian 0.60
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.14

Average of 4 Grandparents:

North_Sea 25,39
Atlantic 13,11
Baltic 26,16
Eastern_Euro 20,41
West_Med 2,46
West_Asian 7,3
East_Med 0
Red_Sea 0
South_Asian 1,06
Southeast_Asian 0
Siberian 1,68
Amerindian 1,71
Oceanian 0,6
Northeast_African 0
Sub-Saharan 0,14

My 23andme:

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Conclusion:

1.23andme is best so far.

2.Out of all gedmatch calcs only Eurogenes K13 and 15 made sense regarding determining ancestry.

3. Ftdna sucks, especially for smaller parts of your ancestry.

4. Dnaland sucks aswell, but atleast they do it for free.

5. Exept for minor differences 4-gp average and my results on gedmatch are similar, so it's safe to say that it's fairly accurate.

6. Unlike common opinion Baltic Germans seem to be very little admixed with locals.

[Not a Cop]

If you want me to do any other test or anything using this results you are free to ask.

[Antimage]

baltic german = Prussian?

[Not a Cop]

baltic german = Prussian?

Not really, Baltic Germans are Germans from Estonia and Latvia, former lands of Teutonic and Livonian orders.

[Karol Klačansky]

Why would you say "unlike common opinion Baltic Germans seem very little admixed with locals"?

He seems to have quite high rates of Eastern European compared to modern Germans from Germany. I mean I'm actually amazed he has as high western European rates that he does compared to Polish Germans I've seen, so he definitely has German ancestry but he still seems quite eastern.

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[Not a Cop]

Why would you say "unlike common opinion Baltic Germans seem very little admixed with locals"?

He seems to have quite high rates of Eastern European compared to modern Germans from Germany. I mean I'm actually amazed he has as high western European rates that he does compared to Polish Germans I've seen, so he definitely has German ancestry but he still seems quite eastern.

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Because he's only 1\2 Baltic German.

[Karol Klačansky]

Because he's only 1\2 Baltic German.

Sorry I went full retard on that one. His results are similar to mine as a 3/4 Slovak 1/4 American. Very interesting thread, it's a gift to have all four grandparents alive, I only can and have tested one grandparent.

[Enflamme]

I feel that the new FTDNA update indicates a minor origin of asia between 3 and 5% (according to people) to many people who do not have this origin; take a look at the results of people on Anthrogenetica ...

They say, it is true, that "FTDNA traces your origins over the past 2,000 years", but I think a bit like Petalpusher, that they say this as an excuse, they actually do not know why this indicates this kind of thing.

[Petalpusher]

Not really, Baltic Germans are Germans from Estonia and Latvia, former lands of Teutonic and Livonian orders.

Where do they come from initially? He scores a lot of west/central, from what i ve seen it's like the F&G of 23andme, with higher values.

[Leto]

4. M g-father - 1\2 Kursk, 1\2 Volga region Russian.

Post his Eurogenes K13 and Gedrosia K6.