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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    Where do they come from initially? He scores a lot of west/central, from what i ve seen it's like the F&G of 23andme, with higher values.
    Well, it's hard to pinpoint any original founding population, German was more of a cultural term than ethnical, the whole thing got real as a result of Northern Crusades.

    Overall Baltic Germans were highly tied with Hanseatic league during medieval times, and was under control of Sweden for a couple of centuries. In general their ethnic composition can be described as a North sea germanics, mainly low Germans+Dutch, but aslo Scandinavians in a big part, and British\French\High Germans in lower amounts.

    I did a K15 mnote for him, and this are results:
    "Lithuanian" 42.3
    "West_Norwegian" 16.4
    "Hinxton4" 15.65
    "Hinxton3" 13.45
    "Chechen" 4.8
    "Gokhem2" 3.4
    "Kalash" 2.5
    "Estonian" 1.4
    "Hinxton2" 0.05
    "Norwegian" 0.05

    He turns out very North-Seaish.

    His K13 oracle:

    1 54% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46% Irish @ 1.4
    2 55.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 44.6% West_Scottish @ 1.41
    3 51.2% Danish + 48.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.54
    4 52.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 47.1% Orcadian @ 1.68
    5 50.4% North_Dutch + 49.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.75
    6 55.8% North_German + 44.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.82
    7 54.1% Southwest_Russian + 45.9% Irish @ 1.87
    8 51.5% Norwegian + 48.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.94
    9 54.6% North_German + 45.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.02
    10 55.8% North_German + 44.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.08
    11 55.5% Southwest_Russian + 44.5% West_Scottish @ 2.1

    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Post his Eurogenes K13 and Gedrosia K6.
    1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 43.14
    2 Natufian 32.91
    3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 19.29
    4 East_Asian 4.15
    5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 0.51


    1 Baltic 45.49
    2 North_Atlantic 26.58
    3 West_Med 9.94
    4 West_Asian 6.24
    5 East_Med 3.59
    6 Siberian 3
    7 Red_Sea 2.26
    8 Amerindian 1.58
    9 Oceanian 1.33

    59.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 40.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.49
    2 68.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 31.2% Erzya @ 2.67
    3 95.7% Russian_Smolensk + 4.3% Chukchi @ 2.68
    4 84.2% Polish + 15.8% Chuvash @ 2.7
    5 95.7% Russian_Smolensk + 4.3% East_Greenlander @ 2.76
    6 95.9% Russian_Smolensk + 4.1% Koryak @ 2.79
    7 72.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 27.2% East_Finnish @ 2.82
    8 95.1% Russian_Smolensk + 4.9% West_Greenlander @ 2.86
    9 84.6% Russian_Smolensk + 15.4% Tatar @ 2.91
    10 87.7% Polish + 12.3% Mari @ 2.91
    11 69.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 30.2% Lithuanian @ 2.92
    12 51.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 48.2% Estonian_Polish @ 3

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    3. M g-mother - 3\4 Russian, 1\4 Polish from Vilno.
    Russian from Vilnius too? Can I have a look at her K13 as well?
    Honestly, I don't use K15. K13, K10 and Gedrosia K6 (good for detecting mongoloid admixture) are the best to me. PuntDNAL15 is not bad either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Russian from Vilnius too? Can I have a look at her K13 as well?
    Honestly, I don't use K15. K13, K10 and Gedrosia K6 (good for detecting mongoloid admixture) are the best to me. PuntDNAL15 is not bad either.
    Polish from Vilnus.

    K13 and k15 are almost the same, but i like the divison of Baltic and North-Atlantic futher.

    North_Atlantic 27.88
    Baltic 45.53
    West_Med 7.79
    West_Asian 8.90
    East_Med 2.89
    Red_Sea 1.40
    South_Asian 1.91
    East_Asian 0.50
    Siberian 1.23
    Amerindian 0.48
    Oceanian 1.48
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    Polish from Vilnus.
    And where is the Russian part from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    And where is the Russian part from?
    I don't know yet, her ancestors were from kupechestvo and were very mobile.

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    Can you share your half Baltic german grandfathers dodecad v3 results?

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    63.1% Belorussian + 36.9% French @ 3.85

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    Quote Originally Posted by karol.klacansky View Post
    Can you share your half Baltic german grandfathers dodecad v3 results?

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    # Population Percent
    1 West_European 44.27
    2 East_European 25.87
    3 Mediterranean 18.51
    4 West_Asian 8.91
    5 Northeast_Asian 1.26
    6 South_Asian 0.53
    7 Southwest_Asian 0.39
    8 Northwest_African 0.27


    54.1% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 45.9% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.99
    2 54.2% N._European (Xing) + 45.8% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.48
    3 71.5% Slovenian (Xing) + 28.5% FIN (1000Genomes) @ 2.49
    4 53.9% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 46.1% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.5
    5 76.1% Slovenian (Xing) + 23.9% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.61
    6 59.3% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 40.7% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.71
    7 55.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 44.1% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.76
    8 59.5% N._European (Xing) + 40.5% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.8

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    Do your grandparents with 1/4 Polish ancestry have any close Polish matches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Do your grandparents with 1/4 Polish ancestry have any close Polish matches?
    None of them have any really close matches, couple in 70-80 cm but nothing more.

    1\4 Vilno Grandma matches: 458 total, 30 -ski, 22 -ius.

    Grandad - 980 matches, 66 -ski.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    Well, it's hard to pinpoint any original founding population, German was more of a cultural term than ethnical, the whole thing got real as a result of Northern Crusades.

    Overall Baltic Germans were highly tied with Hanseatic league during medieval times, and was under control of Sweden for a couple of centuries. In general their ethnic composition can be described as a North sea germanics, mainly low Germans+Dutch, but aslo Scandinavians in a big part, and British\French\High Germans in lower amounts.

    I did a K15 mnote for him, and this are results:
    "Lithuanian" 42.3
    "West_Norwegian" 16.4
    "Hinxton4" 15.65
    "Hinxton3" 13.45
    "Chechen" 4.8
    "Gokhem2" 3.4
    "Kalash" 2.5
    "Estonian" 1.4
    "Hinxton2" 0.05
    "Norwegian" 0.05

    He turns out very North-Seaish.

    His K13 oracle:

    1 54% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46% Irish @ 1.4
    2 55.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 44.6% West_Scottish @ 1.41
    3 51.2% Danish + 48.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.54
    4 52.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 47.1% Orcadian @ 1.68
    5 50.4% North_Dutch + 49.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.75
    6 55.8% North_German + 44.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.82
    7 54.1% Southwest_Russian + 45.9% Irish @ 1.87
    8 51.5% Norwegian + 48.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.94
    9 54.6% North_German + 45.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.02
    10 55.8% North_German + 44.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.08
    11 55.5% Southwest_Russian + 44.5% West_Scottish @ 2.1
    I might have mentioned this before to you but I'm really surpised of how Western your grandfather is. His German side must've been basically pure Northern German. I was not expecting such an old community as the Baltic Germans not to have mixed with the locals. This is in contrast with Estonian Swedes who although are more Scandinavian than Finland-Swedes they are still considerably Eastern shifted.

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