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    Default Nazi myths of pure ancestry and master race debunked by genetics

    DNA analyses show that Europeans have a rich and diverse ancestry.

    As research into ancient human origins progresses, scientists are showing that there is no such thing as 'pure ancestry'.

    In an article published in a special issue of Science focusing on migration, author Ann Gibbons discusses how scientific research is currently debunking the myths that shape ideas of origin and ancestry, using innovative DNA analyses techniques.


    In recent years, studies have shown that nearly all Europeans descend from different waves of migrations that occurred over the past 15,000 years. The individuals who arrived last on the continent interacted and mixed with those who had arrived previously, giving birth to descendants who bear the traces today of this rich genetic history.

    The 'Aryan myth'

    The Science article tells the story of a large battle which took place in 9 CE, pitting a Germanic tribe against Roman forces near the village of Kalkriese in northern Germany. Arminius, a valiant warrior – described as blond, muscular young chieftain – has gone down in history as the first 'German hero' for leading the rebellion against the Romans and uniting Germanic Tribes in this fight.

    Although there is plenty of evidence today that such a battle did take place, it is also clear that much of what has been said about Arminius is a myth. This has not stopped German nationalists and Nazis in the 20th century to use this legendary figure for their own purposes.

    For the Nazis, Arminius belongs to a 'master race' from Germany and northern Europe – the Aryans. The superiority of the Aryans and the supposed purity of their ancestry was used to justify their conquest of Poland and Austria. Nazi propaganda is thought to have presented Hitler as a modern liberator similar to Arminius.

    The article shows however how this Nazi view of the world is not based on scientific evidence. DNA analyses indicate that the German people have a rich and diverse genetic heritage like other Europeans.

    The members of Arminius' tribe "like all Europeans of their day and later, were themselves composites, built from serial migrations into the heart of Europe and then repeatedly remixed", Gibbons writes

    New techniques for new results

    Scholars have long studied artefacts left by ancient cultures all over Europe in an attempt to identify and study different waves of migrations. However, this is not the most reliable method – and now, the advances in the field of genetics have allowed new investigations to be carried out.

    Scientists are now able to extract DNA from ancient skeletal remains, and to draw from it a much more accurate picture of people's genetic ancestry.

    Ever since the first humans left Africa 60,000 years ago, Europeans' history has been shaped by migration.

    Recent research has shown that most of the DNA in today's Europeans can be traced back to three separate waves of migration – starting with hunter-gatherers who came from the Middle East as the glaciers retreated 19,000 to 14,000 years ago. This was followed by a migration by farmers from northwestern Anatolia about 9000 years ago. The third wave migration started 5,000 years ago with herders who moved Europe from what is now known as Russia.

    Other studies have been published, essentially backing up this picture.

    The great German hero Arminius would have been a nice mix of "post–ice age hunter-gatherers, Anatolian farmers, and Yamnaya herders". The idea then that some Europeans have a unique, pure ancestry that they must protect does not stand up to scrutiny.

    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/nazi-myths-...netics-1622254

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    It's not a myth.

    History furnishes us with innumerable instances that prove this law. It shows, with a startling clarity, that whenever Aryans have mingled their blood with that of an inferior race the result has been the downfall of the people who were the standard-bearers of a higher culture. In North America, where the population is prevalently Teutonic, and where those elements intermingled with the inferior race only to a very SMALL DEGREE, we have a quality of mankind and a civilization which are different from those of Central and South America. In these latter countries the immigrants – who mainly belonged to the Latin races – mated with the aborigines, sometimes to a very large extent indeed. In this case we have a clear and decisive example of the effect produced by the mixture of races. But in North America the Teutonic element, which has kept its racial stock pure and did not mix it with any other racial stock, has come to dominate the American Continent and will remain master of it as long as that element does not fall a victim to the habit of adulterating its blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LieDetector View Post
    It's not a myth.

    History furnishes us with innumerable instances that prove this law. It shows, with a startling clarity, that whenever Aryans have mingled their blood with that of an inferior race the result has been the downfall of the people who were the standard-bearers of a higher culture. In North America, where the population is prevalently Teutonic, and where those elements intermingled with the inferior race only to a very SMALL DEGREE, we have a quality of mankind and a civilization which are different from those of Central and South America. In these latter countries the immigrants – who mainly belonged to the Latin races – mated with the aborigines, sometimes to a very large extent indeed. In this case we have a clear and decisive example of the effect produced by the mixture of races. But in North America the Teutonic element, which has kept its racial stock pure and did not mix it with any other racial stock, has come to dominate the American Continent and will remain master of it as long as that element does not fall a victim to the habit of adulterating its blood.

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    If the jews are so inferior race so why american jews are so succesful? How we came to the desret and build such succesful country ?

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    So according to Nazis, they were inbred. That's not surprising really.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ariel View Post
    If the jews are so inferior race so why american jews are so succesful? How we came to the desret and build such succesful country ?
    Because jews are good with the money .. they know how to get it and how to spend it plus they are the guys with idea of nowadays banks (interest rates).

    i wouldn't call them inferior , i will call them tricky because they are the guy who are behind nearly every disaster in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egyptian View Post
    Because jews are good with the money .. they know how to get it and how to spend it plus they are the guys with idea of nowadays banks (interest rates).

    i wouldn't call them inferior , i will call them tricky because they are the guy who are behind nearly every disaster in the world.
    Jews in the U.S. and somewhat worldwide tend to be successful because of their tribal connections, meaning that Jews take care of their own and help each other. Being born as a Jew is being born in one of the best networks. On the other hand, Muslims in general can not get along with each other, plus most successful Jews are actually non-believers or non-practicians of their faith which is obviously better for an entrepreneurial mindset than to be still stuck at non-progressive camel dogmas as most Muslims are.

    They are not "trickier", they are just more clever than your people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    Jews in the U.S. and somewhat worldwide tend to be successful because of their tribal connections, meaning that Jews take care of their own and help each other. Being born as a Jew is being born in one of the best networks. On the other hand, Muslims in general can not get along with each other, plus most successful Jews are actually non-believers or non-practicians of their faith which is obviously better for an entrepreneurial mindset than to be still stuck at non-progressive camel dogmas as most Muslims are.

    They are not "trickier", they are just more clever than your people.
    they weren't clever when they lived in Egypt , read some history.

    plus , i take info from viriato? come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egyptian View Post
    they weren't clever when they lived in Egypt , read some history.

    plus , i take info from viriato? come on.
    You ard talking about mosses lol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ariel View Post
    You ard talking about mosses lol?
    from moses till the era of nasser 1956

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egyptian View Post
    from moses till the era of nasser 1956
    Lol the jews along with greek and italians brought western and modern civilization to egypt many jews were sucssesful and rich .

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