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    Quote Originally Posted by ariel View Post
    Lol the jews along with greek and italians brought western and modern civilization to egypt many jews were sucssesful and rich .
    Not that I care much about this jew, but you have to cure your ignorance .

    '' Western civilization'' is a very ambiguous and idiotic term invented by the brits in the 19th century.

    However we can say that the modern civilzation and the modern Egypt ( and modern Northern Sudan) are a legacy of Albanians, and specifically of a man, Muhamed Ali of Egypt.

    He established his own empire ruled by Albanians stretching from anatolia to southern Sudan, and along with that an Albanian dynasty and nobility.

    Things started to get worse when the albanian dynasty and nobles mixed more with local arabs and when arab riots became vibrant by the early 1880s.

    http://newhistories.group.shef.ac.uk...-modern-egypt/

    http://www.giovanniarmillotta.it/alb.../albegypt.html

    http://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_m...ad_Ali_dynasty


    Italians were few and with no importance and greeks came very late and had some businesses there financed by british money, that is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The.Mask View Post
    Egypt stopped to exist as an independent entity since 540 BC when it was conquered by the Persians and probably stopped to exist as an ancient nation since the arab invasion in 640 AD which applied genetic, linguistic and cultural genocide on natives.


    People living in Egypt right now are just Arabs with considerable negroid admixture and nothing else.


    You own your modern state and identity to the Albanian Muhamed Ali and his albanian dynasty and nobles.
    No, the Arabs did not leave a genetic impact on Egypt, and many genetic studies conclude that today's Egyptians have rarely admixed with outsiders other than east-Africans. Both Egyptians and Arabians are descended from the 2nd wave of Levantine migrants from the late neolithic to early bronze age periods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    You can say that, but of course, Arabization came with admixture with the locals which is why the Muslims tend to cluster more closer to Arabia and north Africa in contrast to the Christians and other genetically isolated groups like the Druze. I'm an Arabized Levantine for the most part genetically, lol. The reason why me and other predominately genetically Levantine peoples today cluster more further away from the ancient neolithic Levantines and early Bronze age Levantines is due because the Levantine genetic structure became more northern as the west Asiatic migrants from Anatolia and Iran began migrating their during the late bronze age and early Iron age periods. The Levantines ancestors of both Egyptians and Arabians left the Levant in the second wave where they were very Levantine with some west Asiatic admixture.

    My results:
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4410333

    My Egyptian Coptic friends:
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4410980
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4410390

    PCA chart of an ancient Semitic speaker from the early bronze age in North-West Jordan:


    Using Global 10...

    Jordan_EBA:I1705

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Saudi Egyptian Assyrian Tunisian
    0.01688859 0.02702003 0.04230395 0.05042037
    Algerian Moroccan Ethiopian_Amhara Ethiopian_Tigray
    0.05977330 0.06250903 0.06827656 0.06843083


    Jordan_EBA:I1706

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Saudi Egyptian Assyrian Tunisian
    0.01121590 0.02529517 0.04461211 0.04794086
    Algerian Moroccan Ethiopian_Tigray Ethiopian_Amhara
    0.05747952 0.05955161 0.06446322 0.06449131


    Jordan_EBA:I1730

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Saudi Egyptian Assyrian Tunisian
    0.01660947 0.02594147 0.04452045 0.04673384
    Algerian Moroccan Ethiopian_Amhara Ethiopian_Tigray
    0.05612227 0.05860530 0.06685817 0.06699568


    All three Jordan_EBA samples are closer to contemporary (understand non-Coptic, SSA-admixed, muslim) Egyptians.

    Levant_Neolithic:I0867

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Saudi Egyptian Tunisian Moroccan
    0.03566195 0.04554086 0.04641960 0.05063521
    Algerian Saharawi Ethiopian_Amhara Ethiopian_Tigray
    0.05151626 0.05912316 0.07079567 0.07148614


    Levant_Neolithic:I1699

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Saudi Egyptian Tunisian Moroccan
    0.03387947 0.04357623 0.04656148 0.05174627
    Algerian Saharawi Ethiopian_Amhara Ethiopian_Tigray
    0.05200293 0.06092333 0.07082936 0.07146232


    Levant_Neolithic:I1704

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Saudi Egyptian Tunisian Moroccan
    0.03183015 0.03921102 0.03989456 0.04466378
    Algerian Saharawi Ethiopian_Amhara Ethiopian_Tigray
    0.04533574 0.05414230 0.06520587 0.06581918

    Arabization was a very gradual process that took many centuries to complete. Egyptian Arabic today has a heavy Coptic influence which tells us that the original people of Egypt merely got Arabized rather than a full scale genocide or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egyptian View Post
    rich yeah , because of their tricky way with money.

    plus , greek , italans and jews brough modern civilization to egypt? ROFL

    dude , the one who brough western civilization to egypt was the macedonian muhammed ali , but who cares about the western civilization in egypt? Egypt greatness in its old antiques.
    Again with your idiocies Arab?

    Do you suffer from huge inferiority complex or what? If Muhamed Ali or any of his albanian nobles, generals or princes would have been very important to Albanians, we would have made a museum or statue to him, but we have not ( a mistake of our anyway, because he was a world leader).

    In the times when Albanian chieftains were ruling western Balkans but also military of the ottoman empire, '' macedonians'' did not exist yet. FYROM identity was created by Tito..


    Look here dude, things are very simple....

    Muhamed Ali was An Albanian dude who was comanding 5,000 of his elite Albanian soldiers.

    In 1804 he killed the other non Albanian Ottoman forces with his 5,000 Albanians in Egypt and declared himself as the ruler of that land as independent from Sultan.

    He will some other thousands Albanians defeated in 1807 the british .

    He conquered most of Sudan with his Albanians by 1811 ( comanned by Albanian general called Al-Arnauti, his friend) and killed all Mamlukes in Cairo, again with his Albanians.

    His entire strength and power was relied on Albanian soldiers.


    He invaded Aabia in 1819 with 10,000 soldiers commanded by his son, Ibrahim Pasha.

    Till 1826, when military reforms started, all the army of his empire was composed by Albanians, until more arabs were allowe to enterMost of his generals were Albanians, till 1880s all the dynasty was almost 100% albanian and even the reforms started because the number of Albanians was low to upkeep a ery huge army, but they were still there as elite forces and training officers to the local arabs .


    Most of the nobility of the Egypt-Sudan state /empire was also Albanian.

    Stop with your buthurtness for the sake of goat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The.Mask View Post
    Not that I care much about this jew, but you have to cure your ignorance .

    '' Western civilization'' is a very ambiguous and idiotic term invented by the brits in the 19th century.
    Lolz at MAsk calling anyone ignorant.

    The concept of Western Civilization had existed before the 19th century (it was originally a more religious based definition). It wasn't invented by Brits in the 19th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    No, the Arabs did not leave a genetic impact on Egypt, and many genetic studies conclude that today's Egyptians have rarely admixed with outsiders other than east-Africans. Both Egyptians and Arabians are descended from the 2nd wave of Levantine migrants from the late neolithic to early bronze age periods.



    Arabization was a very gradual process that took many centuries to complete. Egyptian Arabic today has a heavy Coptic influence which tells us that the original people of Egypt merely got Arabized rather than a full scale genocide or whatever.
    Modern Arabs or modern egyptians are much more negroid admixed than the older ones.

    Many levantines actually are from arab beduin tribes themselves.

    Arabs of Egypt had no identity or any other identuity rather than muslim/arab one prior to the rule of muhamed ali there who created a national sense also.

    Muslim invasions were always genocidal.... that is what happend to northern africans and look at what mongrels have created today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ariel View Post
    Lol the jews along with greek and italians brought western and modern civilization to egypt many jews were sucssesful and rich .
    Quote Originally Posted by The.Mask View Post
    Not that I care much about this jew, but you have to cure your ignorance .

    '' Western civilization'' is a very ambiguous and idiotic term invented by the brits in the 19th century.

    However we can say that the modern civilzation and the modern Egypt ( and modern Northern Sudan) are a legacy of Albanians, and specifically of a man, Muhamed Ali of Egypt.

    He established his own empire ruled by Albanians stretching from anatolia to southern Sudan, and along with that an Albanian dynasty and nobility.

    Things started to get worse when the albanian dynasty and nobles mixed more with local arabs and when arab riots became vibrant by the early 1880s.

    http://newhistories.group.shef.ac.uk...-modern-egypt/

    http://www.giovanniarmillotta.it/alb.../albegypt.html

    http://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_m...ad_Ali_dynasty


    Italians were few and with no importance and greeks came very late and had some businesses there financed by british money, that is all.
    Italians egyptians were ancient community since roman period their number not were very few but 60000 in 1940.the greek community is from hellenistic period and their number was 25000 in 1940.look at wikippedia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Lolz at MAsk calling anyone ignorant.

    The concept of Western Civilization had existed before the 19th century (it was originally a more religious based definition). It wasn't invented by Brits in the 19th century.
    The spanish midget came to give his shot in here.

    I am smarter than you of course , but being smarter than you is not much of a challenge.

    '' western civilization'' term is meaningless and was mostly used by the brits to justify their empire and land acquisitions .

    In middle ages it was not used at all, it started with colonialism in the 17th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ariel View Post
    Italians egyptians were ancient community since roman period their number not were very few but 60000 in 1940.the greek community is from hellenistic period and their number was 25000 in 1940.look at wikippedia.
    Lol man, italians and romans have nothing to do with each other.

    Are you really saying this or i am reading it wrong???

    The italians in Egypt were mostly from libia which was an italian colony and some venetian traders. nothing to do with romans or whatever.

    Most of greeks in egypt came in the 2nd half of the 19th century and were mostly linked to british traders.

    Those guys from hellenistic period 2,300 years ago had vanished a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The.Mask View Post
    Lol man, italians and romans have nothing to do with each other.

    Are you really saying this or i am reading it wrong???

    The italians in Egypt were mostly from libia which was an italian colony and some venetian traders. nothing to do with romans or whatever.

    Most of greeks in egypt came in the 2nd half of the 19th century and were mostly linked to british traders.

    Those guys from hellenistic period 2,300 years ago had vanished a long time ago.
    According to wikipedia they from the hellenistic period but of course therf were immigrants among them from late periods....

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