Does Iberia really have Arabic influence?

[Lavrentis]

This post is a total nonsense and lacks any trace of sense.

There is literally zero Arabic influence in Spain and linguistically there are only 1300 words (the 2,9% of the total) which come from the Arabic but most of them are not used. We have more Amerindian words, which actually we do use it, than Arabic.
Greek for example has much more Turkish-Arabic-Persian words than Spanish.

For last, saying that Northern France and Northern Italy escaped to a non-European foreign rule is false too.
Attila conquered both places, Hannibal Northern Italy and Sarracens too.

Greek definitely doesn't have 1300 Persian-Arab words. Anyway, from the population exchange between Greece and Turkey in 1923, the christian Anatolians that came here had their own distinct culture.

I say again, this post is made for the people who over exaggerate similarities.

[Damião de Góis]

Not necessarily Algerian and Morrocan but Arabic. Some instruments that I can think of: antufe, anafil, guzla, nakib.

You're gonna have to post pictures of those. Never heard of them.

Some food influences: gazpachos, nougat and some Arabic products such as sugar cane and citrics.

I'm strong in my opinion that Iberia is a whole different world from the Arabs, the reason I made this post is for people to realize that some little similarities don't mean cultural similarities.

Not really sure about those products either. Citrics? The whole world has oranges and lemons these days, don't know how they could turn iberians into moors.

I'll help you, what we have is a few (now altered) words and a few buildings, some of them altered too.

[Lavrentis]

You're gonna have to post pictures of those. Never heard of them.



Not really sure about those products either. Citrics? The whole world has oranges and lemons these days, don't know how they could turn iberians into moors.

I'll help you, what we have is a few (now altered) words and a few buildings, some of them altered too.

You can google them. You also prove a big point: people who talk about Arab influence in Spain talk about instruments and food, and you have never heard of them, which proves that people are ignorant.

The thing is if you google about Arabic influence in Iberia you get some articles, which I believe are not so close to the truth.

[Profileid]

This post is a total nonsense and lacks any trace of sense.

There is literally zero Arabic influence in Spain and linguistically there are only 1300 words (the 2,9% of the total) which come from the Arabic but most of them are not used. We have more Amerindian words, which actually we do use it, than Arabic.
Greek for example has much more Turkish-Arabic-Persian words than Spanish.

For last, saying that Northern France and Northern Italy escaped to a non-European foreign rule is false too.
Attila conquered both places, Hannibal Northern Italy and Sarracens too.

called it

[Tietar]

In addition to a lot of rural medieval words of objects that nobody knows or uses, in Madrid there is a arab wall

[Damião de Góis]

You can google them. You also prove a big point: people who talk about Arab influence in Spain talk about instruments and food, and you have never heard of them, which proves that people are ignorant.

I did. The reason i ask is because google didn't give me anything.

"Antufe" gives me phones.

"Anafil" only gives me results in catalan and this picture:



"Guzla" i get this. Where is this man from with that white hat?



"Nakib" i get some woman.

I was hoping for something more mainstream, and that existed here. Also, if it exists here it will have a translation unlike "guzla" or "nakib".

[GiCa]

This post is a total nonsense and lacks any trace of sense.

There is literally zero Arabic influence in Spain and linguistically there are only 1300 words (the 2,9% of the total) which come from the Arabic but most of them are not used. We have more Amerindian words, which actually we do use it, than Arabic.
Greek for example has much more Turkish-Arabic-Persian words than Spanish.

For last, saying that Northern France and Northern Italy escaped to a non-European foreign rule is false too.
Attila conquered both places, Hannibal Northern Italy and Sarracens too.

Attila was not north african or middle eatsern... .... he was from central asia.. likely china or mongolia (Huns=Hiusung-Nu)

in Italy only:

Sicily (caliphate, carthaginians)
Southern Apulia (caliphate)
Sardinia (carthagianians)

were in the past in a some North African or Middle East direct influence

Stop your Ignorance, please.

[The.Mask]

Greek has 300 Turkish words dude, most of them associated with army and administration, but i would never deny it, you are just wrong to say that we have more. Also, how did we gain arab words?

having a non-European rule in the past doesn't make you less European, there is no reason to deny something that happened in the past, especially when that lead you to glories

anyway, when i wrote about that i was thinking attila's conquest in everything except of Northern france

There are 4,000 ottoman words in modern greek.

Everything in modern Greeks is foreign. From national dressed to dances to musical instruments etc.

You are a mix of different ethnicities mixed together 180 years ago.

Albanian sperm was dominant once but more Asians and vlachs were later incorporated among neo Greeks.

Result is hairy armenoid girls and monobrow turkish looking men.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Attila was not north african or middle eatsern... .... he was from central asia.. likely china or mongolia (Huns=Hiusung-Nu)

he was still non-European/non-white, and even more distant from europe than arabs (at least arabs are "caucasoid") and conquered most of Europe

[The.Mask]

Greek definitely doesn't have 1300 Persian-Arab words. Anyway, from the population exchange between Greece and Turkey in 1923, the christian Anatolians that came here had their own distinct culture.

I say again, this post is made for the people who over exaggerate similarities.

Most of greek mainland "culture " is albanian and vlach.

Cretans are heavily Arab mixed and influenced while orthodox ottoman who came in 1923 were a very mixed bag with no identify.