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Any Gypsy/Romani GEDmatch kit numbers?
Does anyone have at least some GEDmatch kit numbers of Gypsies? I'm interested in seeing their results on different calculators.
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I believe Mortimer had posted a thread about that, though I don't know where it is.
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I have found quite a few (some of them seem to be either recently mixed or just from a more diluted sub-group)
Unmixed:
Kit M126024
Kit T011424
Kit A386076
Kit A673296
Kit T206349
Kit A786477
Kit M067219
Kit A065776
Kit M684617
Kit T086896
Kit M816104
Possibly mixed:
Kit M405405
Kit T130613
Kit M405904
Kit A550319
Kit A220363
Kit M534102
Spanish gitano:
Kit M226644
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A452292 form Serbia
A144197
A446290
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The 2nd gypsy gets:Originally Posted by Leto
1 64% Greek_Thessaly + 36% Gujarati @ 3.29
lol Ross, where u at boii?
But it's quite interesting that they get so very close with such a mix, it's sorta expected, but you'd think their MENA admixture would sorta make that not so likely.
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Greeks have middle eastern in them. so the MENA mix is there in his results. Bulgarians and romanians get noticeably different results than greeks. This is also why impaler who has greek admix gets almost half turkish or 1/3 iranian in his results compared to an average romanian or bulgarian.
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I have a close friend who is Romani from Hungary. I cant share her kit but her Eurogenes K13 is below.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 24.11
2 West_Asian 18.63
3 East_Med 16.71
4 West_Med 13.02
5 Baltic 11.5
6 North_Atlantic 10.56
7 Red_Sea 2.08
8 East_Asian 1.98
9 Siberian 0.49
10 Amerindian 0.39
11 Oceanian 0.33
12 Sub-Saharan 0.18
13 Northeast_African 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Tadjik 22.4
2 Afghan_Tadjik 22.59
3 Turkmen 23.1
4 Afghan_Pashtun 23.82
5 Turkish 24.66
6 Greek_Thessaly 24.99
7 Azeri 25
8 Central_Greek 25.88
9 East_Sicilian 26.18
10 Italian_Abruzzo 26.59
11 Pathan 26.91
12 Bulgarian 27.12
13 Iranian 27.25
14 South_Italian 27.43
15 Ashkenazi 27.64
16 Kumyk 27.66
17 West_Sicilian 27.71
18 Romanian 27.77
19 Kurdish 28.53
20 Punjabi_Jat 28.62
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.7% Greek_Thessaly + 40.3% Gujarati @ 3.23
2 58.7% Central_Greek + 41.3% Kshatriya @ 3.31
3 56.8% Central_Greek + 43.2% Brahmin_UP @ 3.42
4 59.6% Greek_Thessaly + 40.4% Kshatriya @ 3.55
5 58.8% Central_Greek + 41.2% Gujarati @ 3.61
6 65.1% Greek_Thessaly + 34.9% Velamas @ 3.95
7 62.8% Central_Greek + 37.2% Kanjar @ 4.04
8 56.5% East_Sicilian + 43.5% Brahmin_UP @ 4.06
9 58.5% East_Sicilian + 41.5% Kshatriya @ 4.22
10 58.6% East_Sicilian + 41.4% Gujarati @ 4.26
11 62.9% Greek_Thessaly + 37.1% Dharkar @ 4.29
12 59.1% Central_Greek + 40.9% Bangladeshi @ 4.3
13 62.1% Central_Greek + 37.9% Dharkar @ 4.3
14 60% Greek_Thessaly + 40% Bangladeshi @ 4.41
15 65.6% Greek_Thessaly + 34.4% Kurumba @ 4.45
16 63.7% Greek_Thessaly + 36.3% Kanjar @ 4.5
17 57.7% Greek_Thessaly + 42.3% Brahmin_UP @ 4.58
18 65.8% Greek_Thessaly + 34.2% Dusadh @ 5
19 55.2% Ashkenazi + 44.8% Brahmin_UP @ 5
20 55.4% South_Italian + 44.6% Brahmin_UP @ 5.08
PuntDNAL K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 25.9
2 SW_Europe 23.46
3 South_Asia 20.13
4 NE_Europe 16.26
5 SW_Asia 8.66
6 SE_Asia 1.72
7 NE_Asia 1.37
8 West_Africa 0.91
9 Oceania 0.6
10 Americas 0.46
11 Siberia 0.41
12 East_Africa 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romani 5.05
2 Tadjik 18.76
3 Turkish_Aydin 19.15
4 Turkish 19.45
5 Kumyk 19.87
6 Balkar 20.51
7 Turkish_Kayseri 20.94
8 Afghan_Pashtun 20.99
9 Pakistan_Pashtun 21.52
10 Afghan_Uzbeki 22.15
11 Nogay 22.25
12 Azerbaijan_Azeri 22.39
13 Dagestan_Azeri 22.83
14 Pathan 23.03
15 Iranian 23.24
16 Greek_Central 23.39
17 Ossetian 23.68
18 Adygei 23.84
19 Ashkenazy_Jew 23.9
20 Kurdish 24.35
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.6% Greek_Central + 38.4% Bengali @ 1.45
2 65% Greek_Central + 35% UP_Muslim @ 1.51
3 66.2% Greek_Central + 33.8% Piramalai_Kallars @ 1.94
4 59.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 40.5% Bengali @ 1.96
5 65.2% Greek_Central + 34.8% Tamil_Nadu_Caste @ 2.05
6 66% Greek_Central + 34% Chenchus @ 2.14
7 59.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 40.9% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 2.37
8 66.1% Greek_Central + 33.9% Kurumba @ 2.41
9 67.9% Greek_Central + 32.1% Sakilli @ 2.47
10 66.1% Greek_Central + 33.9% Gond @ 2.66
11 63.4% Greek_Thessaly + 36.6% Velamas @ 2.67
12 68.1% Greek_Central + 31.9% North_Kannadi @ 2.73
13 63.1% Albanian + 36.9% Velamas @ 2.79
14 61.2% Greek_Central + 38.8% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 2.92
15 65.1% Greek_Central + 34.9% Velamas @ 2.96
16 63.7% Greek_Thessaly + 36.3% Tamil_Nadu_Caste @ 3.16
17 61.2% Ashkenazy_Jew + 38.8% Bengali @ 3.19
18 64.6% Greek_Thessaly + 35.4% Kurumba @ 3.23
19 68.8% Greek_Central + 31.2% Hakkipikki @ 3.28
20 64.7% Greek_Thessaly + 35.3% Piramalai_Kallars @ 3.35
34.4% NW Euro
26.9% Italian-Greek
11% Balto-North Slavic
8.2% Iberian
8.2% Finnish
4.3% Caucasus
4% Basque
1% Ashkenazi
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This guy seems to be heavily mixed. Even Mortimer who is half-Gypsy has more Indian blood.
Dodecad k12b:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 30.76
2 Atlantic_Med 24.18
3 Caucasus 15.42
4 South_Asian 11.24
5 Gedrosia 9.35
6 Southeast_Asian 3.22
7 Southwest_Asian 2.19
8 Siberian 1.55
9 East_Asian 1.35
10 Northwest_African 0.59
11 Sub_Saharan 0.09
12 East_African 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 17.4
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 18.68
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 19.58
4 Hungarians (Behar) 20.38
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 21.14
6 German (Dodecad) 21.98
7 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.01
8 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 22.94
9 French (Dodecad) 23.27
10 French (HGDP) 23.6
11 TSI30 (Metspalu) 24.52
12 Dutch (Dodecad) 24.52
13 North_Italian (HGDP) 24.79
14 Tuscan (HGDP) 24.97
15 C_Italian (Dodecad) 25.72
16 Kent (1000Genomes) 25.73
17 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 25.96
18 English (Dodecad) 26.08
19 Greek (Dodecad) 26.46
20 Galicia (1000Genomes) 26.91
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.5% German (Dodecad) + 32.5% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 6.38
2 69.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 30.6% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 6.74
3 73% Hungarians (Behar) + 27% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 7.25
4 77.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.2% Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 8.6
5 77.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.3% Velamas (Metspalu) @ 8.68
6 75% Hungarians (Behar) + 25% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) @ 8.75
7 76% Hungarians (Behar) + 24% Tharus (Metspalu) @ 8.82
8 78.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 21.6% Kurumba (Metspalu) @ 8.84
9 67.2% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 32.8% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 8.86
10 79.2% Romanians (Behar) + 20.8% Iyer (Dodecad) @ 8.92
11 78.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 21.6% Chenchus (Metspalu) @ 8.94
12 75.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 24.4% Iyer (Dodecad) @ 8.97
13 80% Romanians (Behar) + 20% Dharkars (Metspalu) @ 8.97
14 75.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 24.6% Indian (Dodecad) @ 8.97
15 76.4% Romanians (Behar) + 23.6% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 8.98
16 76.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 23.1% INS30 (SGVP) @ 9
17 78% Romanians (Behar) + 22% Kshatriya (Metspalu) @ 9
18 78.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 21.2% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) @ 9.02
19 78% Hungarians (Behar) + 22% Dusadh (Metspalu) @ 9.05
20 80.2% Romanians (Behar) + 19.8% Kanjars (Metspalu) @ 9.06
Eurogenes k13:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 23.01
2 Baltic 21.56
3 West_Med 13.63
4 South_Asian 13.48
5 East_Med 11.82
6 West_Asian 8.3
7 East_Asian 3.17
8 Siberian 1.94
9 Oceanian 1.94
10 Amerindian 0.77
11 Red_Sea 0.38
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 14.22
2 Serbian 14.4
3 Bulgarian 15.41
4 Moldavian 15.74
5 Hungarian 17.19
6 Croatian 17.99
7 Greek_Thessaly 18.98
8 Austrian 19.08
9 East_German 20.05
10 North_Italian 21.18
11 West_German 21.33
12 French 21.98
13 Tuscan 22.14
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 22.42
15 South_Dutch 22.62
16 South_Polish 23.22
17 Tatar 23.35
18 Italian_Abruzzo 23.52
19 Spanish_Galicia 23.63
20 Ukrainian 23.68
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.9% Serbian + 18.1% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 3.49
2 81.1% Serbian + 18.9% Chenchu @ 3.67
3 82.4% Serbian + 17.6% Sakilli @ 4.11
4 78.2% Serbian + 21.8% Bangladeshi @ 4.13
5 82.3% Serbian + 17.7% Chamar @ 4.2
6 80.6% Serbian + 19.4% Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.34
7 81.4% Serbian + 18.6% North_Kannadi @ 4.41
8 81.1% Serbian + 18.9% Kol @ 4.43
9 81.5% Serbian + 18.5% Dusadh @ 4.46
10 82.3% Serbian + 17.7% Piramalai @ 4.55
11 81.6% Serbian + 18.4% Kurumba @ 4.75
12 80.2% Serbian + 19.8% Dharkar @ 4.77
13 80.5% Serbian + 19.5% Kanjar @ 4.83
14 82.6% Romanian + 17.4% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 4.84
15 81.6% Serbian + 18.4% Velamas @ 5.02
16 78.9% Serbian + 21.1% Kshatriya @ 5.6
17 77.6% Serbian + 22.4% Brahmin_UP @ 5.62
18 82.1% Romanian + 17.9% Chenchu @ 5.78
19 83.1% Romanian + 16.9% Chamar @ 5.94
20 83.3% Romanian + 16.7% Sakilli @ 5.97
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Romanichal (anglo-saxon gypsies, from USA, England, etc.) :
They range from almost fully "white" to this:
86.6% South_Dutch + 13.4% Brahmin_UP @ 2.83
2 87.5% South_Dutch + 12.5% Kshatriya @ 2.99
3 88.6% South_Dutch + 11.4% Kanjar @ 3
4 81.9% Southeast_English + 18.1% Pathan @ 3
5 84% Southeast_English + 16% Gujarati @ 3.04
M063700
F219180
F286069
F272934
A659381
F220016
M105137
F177569
M574332
F346924
F289714
M123704
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I score some South Asian too, but my mixed populations are not Indians, more Iranic/Middle Eastern on Eurogenes K13:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.22
2 North_Atlantic 23.67
3 Baltic 18.76
4 West_Asian 12.71
5 West_Med 10.6
6 South_Asian 6.29
7 Siberian 1.32
8 East_Asian 0.83
9 Sub-Saharan 0.54
10 Red_Sea 0.51
11 Northeast_African 0.42
12 Oceanian 0.13
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 10.72
2 Romanian 10.94
3 Greek_Thessaly 11.66
4 Serbian 13.54
5 Italian_Abruzzo 14.81
6 Central_Greek 16.12
7 Tuscan 16.33
8 West_Sicilian 16.88
9 East_Sicilian 16.97
10 Ashkenazi 17.12
11 North_Italian 18.6
12 Moldavian 18.84
13 South_Italian 19.47
14 Hungarian 19.55
15 Croatian 21.44
16 Austrian 21.99
17 West_German 23.23
18 French 23.43
19 Sephardic_Jewish 23.44
20 Italian_Jewish 23.73
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.1% East_German + 41.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.17
2 63.5% Hungarian + 36.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.31
3 59% East_German + 41% Iranian_Jewish @ 6.52
4 64.4% Hungarian + 35.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 6.55
5 60.5% Austrian + 39.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.58
6 50.3% North_Swedish + 49.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.58
7 61.4% Austrian + 38.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 6.7
8 51.2% North_Swedish + 48.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 6.95
9 65.3% Hungarian + 34.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 7.15
10 52.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 47.7% North_Swedish @ 7.22
11 61.4% Hungarian + 38.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 7.23
12 50.6% Swedish + 49.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 7.25
13 59.8% East_German + 40.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 7.26
14 53% Cyprian + 47% North_Swedish @ 7.3
15 64.3% Hungarian + 35.7% Assyrian @ 7.4
16 62.2% Austrian + 37.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 7.44
17 74.6% Serbian + 25.4% Iranian_Jewish @ 7.45
18 51.9% North_Swedish + 48.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 7.5
19 52.2% North_Swedish + 47.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 7.53
20 74% Serbian + 26% Lebanese_Druze @ 7.56
4-Ancestors Oracle:
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian @ 12.530855
2 Romanian @ 12.717640
3 Greek_Thessaly @ 13.330124
4 Serbian @ 15.725840
5 Italian_Abruzzo @ 16.598959
6 Central_Greek @ 18.300652
7 Tuscan @ 18.302574
8 West_Sicilian @ 19.011990
9 East_Sicilian @ 19.229919
10 Ashkenazi @ 19.798227
11 North_Italian @ 20.907272
12 Moldavian @ 21.795744
13 South_Italian @ 22.052568
14 Hungarian @ 22.595999
15 Croatian @ 24.776907
16 Austrian @ 25.369507
17 Sephardic_Jewish @ 26.622345
18 West_German @ 26.708742
19 French @ 26.796412
20 Italian_Jewish @ 27.123356
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% North_Swedish @ 7.511621
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% East_German +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% Turkmen @ 6.862291
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Danish + Iranian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_Finnish @ 6.461216
2 Estonian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Valencia + Turkmen @ 6.476468
3 Ashkenazi + Danish + Hungarian + Iranian_Jewish @ 6.492480
4 Iranian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Southeast_English + Southwest_Finnish @ 6.521392
5 Ashkenazi + Danish + Iranian_Jewish + South_Polish @ 6.541095
6 Iranian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Southwest_Finnish @ 6.548788
7 Danish + Iranian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Southwest_Russian @ 6.560558
8 Estonian + Iranian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Southeast_English @ 6.570577
9 Danish + Iranian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Kargopol_Russian @ 6.571107
10 Estonian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Cataluna + Turkmen @ 6.574002
11 Ashkenazi + Hungarian + Iranian_Jewish + North_German @ 6.574359
12 Finnish + Iranian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Southeast_English @ 6.605608
13 Ashkenazi + Hungarian + Iranian_Jewish + Swedish @ 6.624003
14 Ashkenazi + Croatian + Danish + Iranian_Jewish @ 6.630161
15 Danish + Iranian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6.630640
16 Cyprian + Danish + Iranian_Jewish + Southwest_Finnish @ 6.635033
17 Belorussian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Cataluna + Turkmen @ 6.637668
18 Lebanese_Druze + South_Polish + Southeast_English + Turkmen @ 6.642025
19 Estonian + Iranian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian @ 6.647355
20 Assyrian + Danish + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_Finnish @ 6.651128
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