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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    They're not even all the same genetically. Cypriots are almost full blown Levantines. Cretans are similar to Sicilians.
    levant is close to cyprus

    but cypruses are greeks i have cyprus friends. they are very nationalists

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    Gibraltars, Cypriots.. but overall Greeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiCa View Post
    Gibraltars, Cypriots.. but overall Greeks
    Doubtful people in Epirus and Thessaly are darker than the people in Calabria....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Ok but Cretans/Dodecanese are close to both Sicily and Ashkenazim genetically, not mainland Greeks who will be plotting at the north of that red box...
    I didn't say that they are not close to sicilians or askhenazi, however, they ate equidistant to cycladians, and cycladians are closer to mainland

    All this is depicted as Greek dna in the diagram, and includes all Greeks except of Cypriots, maybe pontics too

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    Quote Originally Posted by RN97 View Post
    Do you have a PCA with Maltese on it fam?
    No but on GEDmatch they are closest to Sicilians especially since their ancestry almost all comes from Agrigento and Caltanissetta provinces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum View Post
    I didn't say that they are not close to sicilians or askhenazi, however, they ate equidistant to cycladians, and cycladians are closer to mainland

    All this is depicted as Greek dna in the diagram, and includes all Greeks except of Cypriots, maybe pontics too
    What you seem to be evading is that Cretans are not close to mainland Greeks, they are closer to Sicilians. Even Cyclades are shifted toward Sicily, but are between them/Cretans and the mainland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Doubtful people in Epirus and Thessaly are darker than the people in Calabria....
    i said overall based on my morphes mostly

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    Quote Originally Posted by MedBreeze View Post
    cypriots cretans and islands are greeks. they are european
    Cypriots are not European, genetically they are close to the Levant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    What you seem to be evading is that Cretans are not close to mainland Greeks, they are closer to Sicilians. Even Cyclades are shifted toward Sicily, but are between them/Cretans and the mainland.
    Yes, and since there is not any non Greek population either between mainland and cyclades or between Crete and cyclades, all of these populations are in the Greek genetic frame

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiCa View Post
    i said overall based on my morphes mostly
    Your morphes included people from National teams, which in Greek case include even romani people

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