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[catgeorge]

Encyclopedia Americana 1919, "KLEPTOMANIA", p. 472. "The Klephtic ballads",: "The Klephtic ballads developed in mainland Greece, and in the sixteenth century represented the supreme stage in the evolution of modern Greek folk poetry. They can be separated into two groups, one dealing with the achievements or the death of an individual Klepht and the second with the life of the Klephts in general...Among them is a notable series of songs that deal with battles between mountains, a motif that goes back to antiquity, as we know from a fragment of Corinna found on a second-century papyrus in which Mount Helicon and Mount Cithaeron are fighting. Such battles of mountains in Greek folk songs have survived in Crete and in Carpathos, but the most famous of all is the Pan-Hellenic ballad of The Battle between Mount Olympus and Mount Kisavos."

Greek mountains always Greek.

[catgeorge]

Klephts originally meant just "brigand" were highwaymen turned self-appointed armatoloi, anti-Ottoman insurgents, and warlike mountain-folk who lived in the countryside when Greece was a part of the Ottoman Empire. They were the descendants of Greeks who retreated into the mountains during the 15th century in order to avoid Ottoman rule. They carried on a continuous war against Ottoman rule and remained active as brigands until the 19th century.

Kiss our ass

[meisje]

Greeks come to cry as usual and Sheeptar Retard with them

[The.Mask]

Greeks come to cry as usual and Sheeptar Retard with them

Son of a gerorgian harem whore, we are just trolling you dirty brown mongrel gypsies.

That is all.

[Laberia]

Kiss our Greek ass Armataloi and Klefts forever.

Encyclopedia Americana 1919, p. 472: "KLEPTHS, klēfts (Greek, "thieves"). Greek bandits who, after the conquest of Greece by the Turks in the 15th century, kept themselves free in the mountains of northern Greece and Macedonia, and carried on a perpetual war against Turkish rule, considering everything belonging to a Turk a lawful prize."

Come on you proud pallkari armenian guy, stop stealing history of others:

We shall pass over the interesting account of Epirus, which forms the Introduction, and proceed to the Life of Ali Pacha. He was supposed to be born about the year 1750. Tepeliui, about 20 leagues North of Janina, was the place of his nativity. His ancestors, it appears, embraced the lucrative profession of Kleftes, a species of robbers very common in the wild mountains of Albania.

The Gentleman's magazine, Volume 92, Part 2, p. 420
The Gentleman's Magazine - Google Books

Some Christian tribes, especially the Roman Catholics of the north of Albania, are occasionally found in that situation : but, in general, the Christian Albanian soldiers have either remained at home for"the defence of their native districts, or have entered into the service of the Greek governors of the Ultra-Danubian provinces, or have joined the bands of robbers which infest various parts of European Turkey, or have been united to the Armatoli and Kleftes of Greece.

The Oriental herald and journal of general literature, Volume 9, p. 459
The Oriental Herald and Journal of General Literature - Google Books

The klepthes (the reputable robbers, as they esteemed themselves), of the mountains of Zante, and of the adjoining islands before enumerated, identified themselves with those of Albania, and are said, for many years, during the period of Venetian rule, to have taken common part with them.

Notes and observations on the Ionian islands and Malta: with some ..., Volume 2 By John Davy, p. 127

Sketches of modern Greece, by a young English volunteer in the ..., Volume 1, p. 406

The Nations of Russia and Turkey and Their Destiny By Ivan Gavrilovich Golovin, p. 137

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"The Balkan Wars: Conquest, Revolution, and Retribution from the Ottoman Era to the Twentieth Century and Beyond
By Andre Gerolymatos, André Gerolymatos"

...

1. ALBANIANS AS LEGENDARY FIGHTERS

Although by the early 19th century the guerrilla warfare of klephts was common throughout the Balkans, it had its roots in Albania. The ALBANIANS had a reputation as military innovators, a distinction associated particularly with the ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN SULIOT TRIBES OF EPIRUS.


In the 18th C, as the military efficiency of the janissaries corps continued to decline, the ottoman authorities began to rely on Albanian mercenaries with increasing frequency.
For the most part it was their legendary military prowess, as well as their willingness to serve in the foreign armies, that established Albanians as the hardiest and toughest recruits for the Ottoman forces.

All Albanians in 19 C carried arms. usually they were equipped with a musket, pistols, and a sword. This made it easy for those who were not in league with the bandits to defend their homes and property against them. For years, their pattern of bandit activity remained relatively unchanged. In the early summer, armed groups of as few as two or as many as a couple of hundred would assemble under the leadership of a single chief. In the winter most of the bandits would disperse and take refuge in their respective villages. During their operating season, some would find shelter in caves, but many simply lived outdoors with only their capes for cover. (Pages 115-116)

The legend and bravery and success of the Albanian bandits created a model for the other Balkan brigands. A bandit's value was based on his skill with weapons and the degree of courage he displayed. Any kind of central authority was treated with disdain, and rugged individualism was celebrated. But what distinguished this Albanian bandit was his willingness to CARRY or DISPLAY A WEAPON!!.....Not surprisingly, the legend of the Albanian mountain warrior often proved irresistible to young men and nationalist historians alike. In this way, the bandit was transformed into a romantic desperado in search of freedom (page 118).


2. ALBANIANS, KLEPHTS, KILTS and THE GREEK REVOLUTION

Eventually their military reputation rose to such heights that it invited emulation of method, and soon, as mentioned earlier, the ALBANIANS even set the fashion for Balkan warriors with their KILTS. Eventually many Ottoman notables also adopted the ALBANIAN LOOK as did the GREEK KLEPHTS AND THE ARMATOLI.

The popularity of the costume was enhanced during the Greek war of liberation, since those who wore it could claim to fight for the Greek cause and draw pay from the various Greek governments. Today this Albanian fashion statement of the 18th c and 19th c is instantly recognized as the GREEK NATIONAL COSTUME and it’s proudly worn by the men guarding the tomb of the Unknown Soldier in front of the Greek Parliament.

[meisje]

Son of a gerorgian harem whore, we are just trolling you dirty brown mongrel gypsies.

That is all.

Your Whore Mom sucking Turkish Dicks in the Harem before Sperm was enjected her dirty Pussy,Your West-Asian Genes are result of Harem Rapes, Low IQ Imbecile, Now Get lost Little Son Of Whore

[Böri]

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And I dont even talk about almost full Europids like Türkmens, Tatars, Bashkirs, etc. Kazakhs, Khakassia etc are few fringes.

Are you sick? the Albo insults your mom and you think it's related with me? Greeks never raped us, if anything we raped them. Also I am Turkoman descent like results from Giresun region proves. If you wanna f•ck with me its different story, 'Georgian,

[Petros Houhoulis]

Listen to this Greek soldier.



If the Ottoman Empire was imperialist in the same way as Spanish, British, Dutch etc. empires were; you would have been speaking Turkish now. Look at African countries speaking English, French and such. And you see former Ottoman lands speaking not Turkish and their own language. You were oppressed just because you gave higher taxes? no this is not oppression. Your people were wealthier and dominated over all the commerce and trade so it was only fair and just.

The British agents provoked these thugs. The leaders of these thugs were raised by the British intelligence. Even British agents like Lord Byron fought alongside you lmao. You betrayed your country. What a shame.

What you Turks always forget is the lack of democracy within the Ottoman empire, to the point that Ataturk himself rebelled against the Ottoman empire, remember?

Not to mention the countless genocides committed by the Ottoman empire, or even the modern ones committed by the Turks against the Kurds.

Just because the Greeks were more competent than you, does not prove anything. You should have been more entrepreneurial and more democratic.

We'll see how your loyalty to the modern Turkish state shall unfold once Turkey becomes a full fledged dictatorship and forces you to fight back. I guess when you shall be defeated, your new Muslim overlord shall speak to you the same way Kemal Ataturk spoke to those Greeks, but it's going to be too late...

[Petros Houhoulis]

The thing is; you betrayed your COUNTRY. This is something different. Turks also fought the tyranny of Sultans and tried to reform things within the country. Young Turks overthrew the oppressive Sultan in 1908 with a revolution which also saw the support of Greek, Jewish and Armenian subjects.

What you forget is that the Young Turks begun splintering into two factions, the İttihat ve Terakki Cemiyeti and the Hürriyet ve İtilâf Fırkası. You know what happened next:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1913_O..._d%27%C3%A9tat

The 1913 Ottoman coup d'état (January 23, 1913), also known as the Raid on the Sublime Porte (Turkish: Bâb-ı Âlî Baskını), was a coup d'état carried out in the Ottoman Empire by a number of Committee of Union and Progress (CUP) members led by Ismail Enver Bey and Mehmed Talaat Bey, in which the group made a surprise raid on the central Ottoman government buildings, the Sublime Porte (Turkish: Bâb-ı Âlî). During the coup, the Minister of the Navy Nazım Pasha was assassinated and the Grand Vizier, Kâmil Pasha, was forced to resign. After the coup, the government fell into the hands of the Committee of Union and Progress, now under the leadership of the triumvirate known as the "Three Pashas", made up of Enver, Talaat, and Djemal Pasha.
In 1911, the Freedom and Accord Party (also known as the Liberal Union or Liberal Entente), Kâmil Pasha's party, was formed in opposition to the CUP and almost immediately won the by-elections in Istanbul.^[1] Alarmed, the CUP rigged the general elections of 1912 with electoral fraud and violence against Freedom and Accord, earning them the nickname "Election of Clubs" (Turkish: Sopalı Seçimler).^[2] In response, the Savior Officers (Turkish: Halâskâr Zâbitân) of the army, partisans of Freedom and Accord determined to see the CUP fall, rose up in anger and caused the fall of the CUP's post-election Mehmed Said Pasha government.^[3] A new government was formed under Ahmed Muhtar Pasha, but it too was dissolved after a few months in October 1912 after the sudden outbreak of the First Balkan War.^[4]
After gaining the permission of sultan Mehmed V to form a new government in late October 1912, Freedom and Accord leader Kâmil Pasha sat down to diplomatic talks with Bulgaria after the unsuccessful First Balkan War.^[5] With the Bulgarian demand for the cession of the former Ottoman capital city of Edirne (Adrianople) looming and the outrage among the Turkish populace as well as the CUP leadership, the CUP carried out the raid on the Sublime Porte.^[5] After the coup, opposition parties like Freedom and Accord were subject to heavy repression and their leaders arrested or exiled to Europe, while many CUP members were put into power. Coup leader Enver Bey (later Pasha), soon to be Minister of War, withdrew the Ottoman Empire from the ongoing London Peace Conference and moved it closer to Germany ahead of World War I.

It tunrs out that the CUP fooled all of the minorities of the Ottoman empire, and instead of giving them equal rights, it tried to Turkify everybody - something that Kemal Ataturk attempted more successfully later, but the Kurds managed to evade even that. Thus your claims that the Ottomans were "kind" towards us because they didn't force any minority to become Turks is almost true, but...

...You also forget that the Ottoman empire was not a Turkish empire. It was a Muslim empire. The Turks were a bunch of backward Anatolians - which they remain except for the fact that they flooded western Turkey by now as well - and they were ridiculed by the Ottoman court whose official language was ARABIC. Thus, if you succeeded at assimilating us, we would speak Arabic, not Turkish!!!

Anyway, you are such idiots that Sultan Mad Terrorist might end up Arabizing you for the sake of his Islamist agenda!!!

I'm not a fan of Ottomans. But my people were driven out of their home by these thugs who fell for the incitements of British whose main purpose was to disintigerate the Ottoman Empire.

It was your ancestors' mistake not to revert back to their original ethnic groups instead of sticking to their Muslim faith. Now you are fucked because Turkey is bound to disintegrate as well, for the same reasons the Ottoman empire fell apart...

[Petros Houhoulis]

Ottomans indeed failed to keep up with scientific and philosophical developments but they did not oppress you. You paid higher taxes as your people were wealthier and dominated over the commerce as opposed to Anatolian farmers. The tax policy was just and fair. You revolted and killed your neighbors, who had been living side by side as Greeks, Turks, Jews etc.

You think that the real problem was the tax policy? Not the fact that the Muslims within the Ottoman empire were second class citizens when the non-Muslims were third class citizens? Do you know that a Muslim could easily kill or rape a non Muslim and then no Ottoman court could judge him because the Muslim courts would not accept non Muslims and non Muslim courts could not try Muslims?

This is why your country is being destroyed by these global barons that you sucked up back then. Karma strikes. Ottomans did not force anything on you. Listen to the Greek soldier.

As if the Ottoman empire had been better since the late 19th century:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Turks#World_War_I

World War I

See also: Middle Eastern theatre of World War I
On November 2, 1914, the Ottoman Empire entered World War I on the side of the Central Powers. The Middle Eastern theatre of World War I became the scene of action. The combatants were the Ottoman Empire, with some assistance from the other Central Powers, against primarily the British and the Russians among the Allies. Rebuffed elsewhere by the major European powers, the Young Turks, through highly secret diplomatic negotiations, led the Ottoman Empire to ally itself with Germany. The Young Turks needed to modernize the Empire’s communications and transportation networks without putting themselves in the hands of European bankers. Europeans already owned much of the country’s railroad system,^{[citation needed]} and since 1881, the administration of the defaulted Ottoman foreign debt had been in European hands. During the War, the Young Turk empire was "virtually an economic colony on the verge of total collapse."^[12]
At the end of the War, with the collapse of Bulgaria and Germany's capitulation, Talaat Pasha and the CUP ministry resigned on October 13, 1918, and the Armistice of Mudros was signed aboard a British battleship in the Aegean Sea.^[14] On November 2, Enver, Talaat and Djemal, along with their German allies, fled from Istanbul into exile.^{[citation needed]}

In case that you didn't notice, Turkey is much poorer than Greece and the average Turk earns less than half of what the average Greek earns, and you haven't reached the bottom yet. The Turkish lira reached 4 Euros again... And you have a long way to go before a full blown financial collapse.

When it comes to education; that's why I said you should watch the video. The Ottomans did not destroy your history and heritage. Nobody forced you to forget your people's history. You were ungrateful and betrayed the country. You don't speak Turkish yet all these Africans speak various Latin languages.

The Ottomans did not ruin much of the Greek spirit because Christianity eroded us just before, but any suggestion that the Ottomans were better than the Byzantines is a joke at best...