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    Karol.Klacansky asked me about doing Eurogenes K13 PCA (for Europe & MENA) with his results. I decided to make it publicly. If somebody want to add write your results.

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    which K13 ? eurogenes ?

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    thanks for your efforts

    here my results

    (I dont know if you ned the oracle and population stuff too . in case you do I post them)


    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent

    1 West_Asian 36.07
    2 East_Med 30.76
    3 West_Med 8.28
    4 South_Asian 6.82
    5 Red_Sea 6.05
    6 North_Atlantic 4.62
    7 Baltic 2.78
    8 Siberian 1.29
    9 Sub-Saharan 1.28
    10 East_Asian 1.21
    11 Amerindian 0.84

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance

    1 Azeri 4.04
    2 Kurdish 4.85
    3 Iranian 6.24
    4 Armenian 7.52
    5 Turkish 7.58
    6 Georgian_Jewish 7.92
    7 Assyrian 9.87
    8 Iranian_Jewish 12.29
    9 Kurdish_Jewish 12.78
    10 Kumyk 15.64
    11 Lebanese_Muslim 15.99
    12 Georgian 17
    13 Turkmen 17.02
    14 Syrian 17.05
    15 Adygei 18.25
    16 Abhkasian 18.48
    17 Balkar 19.41
    18 Ossetian 19.83
    19 Cyprian 20.28
    20 Kabardin 20.68

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance

    1 86.2% Kurdish + 13.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.93
    2 85.3% Kurdish + 14.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.02
    3 85.6% Kurdish + 14.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.09
    4 86.5% Kurdish + 13.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.13
    5 67.9% Azeri + 32.1% Armenian @ 2.17
    6 86.1% Kurdish + 13.9% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.22
    7 89.8% Kurdish + 10.2% Tunisian @ 2.25
    8 82.5% Kurdish + 17.5% Cyprian @ 2.28
    9 90.2% Kurdish + 9.8% Algerian @ 2.4
    10 85.8% Kurdish + 14.2% South_Italian @ 2.41
    11 90.5% Kurdish + 9.5% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.42
    12 63.1% Kurdish + 36.9% Turkish @ 2.45
    13 86.7% Kurdish + 13.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.46
    14 79.1% Kurdish + 20.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.47
    15 70.3% Azeri + 29.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.5
    16 80.4% Kurdish + 19.6% Syrian @ 2.58
    17 86.4% Kurdish + 13.6% East_Sicilian @ 2.63
    18 90.8% Kurdish + 9.2% Moroccan @ 2.63
    19 88% Kurdish + 12% West_Sicilian @ 2.65
    20 55.8% Iranian + 44.2% Turkish @ 2.74


    Using 2 populations approximation:

    1 50% Kurdish +50% Turkish @ 2.958184


    Using 3 populations approximation:

    1 50% Azeri +25% Georgian_Jewish +25% Kurdish @ 2.185565


    Using 4 populations approximation:
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    1 Armenian + Azeri + Azeri + Iranian @ 1.773698
    2 Armenian + Iranian + Iranian + Turkish @ 1.782778
    3 Armenian + Azeri + Iranian + Turkish @ 1.818801
    4 Armenian + Iranian + Kurdish + Turkish @ 1.892237
    5 Assyrian + Azeri + Azeri + Kurdish @ 2.045625
    6 Armenian + Azeri + Azeri + Kurdish @ 2.058843
    7 Azeri + Azeri + Georgian_Jewish + Kurdish @ 2.185565
    8 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Makrani + Ossetian @ 2.210294
    9 Armenian + Azeri + Azeri + Azeri @ 2.228114
    10 Georgian_Jewish + Iranian + Kurdish + Turkish @ 2.234008
    11 Assyrian + Iranian + Kurdish + Turkish @ 2.295723
    12 Abhkasian + Iranian + Iranian + Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.307506
    13 Assyrian + Kurdish + Kurdish + Turkish @ 2.356586
    14 Iranian + Iranian + Lebanese_Druze + Ossetian @ 2.395164
    15 Armenian + Armenian + Kurdish_Jewish + Tadjik @ 2.399478
    16 Armenian + Georgian_Jewish + Kurdish_Jewish + Tadjik @ 2.415150
    17 Azeri + Georgian_Jewish + Iranian + Turkish @ 2.428787
    18 Armenian + Armenian + Iranian_Jewish + Tadjik @ 2.435643
    19 Georgian_Jewish + Kurdish + Kurdish + Turkish @ 2.436239
    20 Armenian + Azeri + Kurdish + Turkish @ 2.437537

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    Could you plot me on it as well please?

    My results:
    # Population Percent
    1 West_Med 24.43
    2 East_Med 24.38
    3 Baltic 20.62
    4 North_Atlantic 18.38
    5 West_Asian 8.43
    6 Red_Sea 3.54
    7 Oceanian 0.15
    8 East_Asian 0.09

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek_Thessaly 6.2
    2 Bulgarian 8.82
    3 Romanian 11.01
    4 Central_Greek 12.15
    5 Tuscan 12.16
    6 West_Sicilian 12.81
    7 East_Sicilian 13.02
    8 Italian_Abruzzo 13.35
    9 Ashkenazi 14.52
    10 Serbian 14.53
    11 North_Italian 14.59
    12 South_Italian 15.81
    13 Moldavian 19.57
    14 Algerian_Jewish 20.08
    15 Italian_Jewish 20.69
    16 Sephardic_Jewish 21.42
    17 Portuguese 21.98
    18 Croatian 22.25
    19 Spanish_Extremadura 22.43
    20 Hungarian 22.58

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 80.9% Bulgarian + 19.1% Sardinian @ 5.04
    2 91.1% Greek_Thessaly + 8.9% Ukrainian @ 5.52
    3 92.4% Greek_Thessaly + 7.6% Estonian_Polish @ 5.52
    4 93.4% Greek_Thessaly + 6.6% Lithuanian @ 5.54
    5 88.8% Greek_Thessaly + 11.2% Croatian @ 5.57
    6 92.9% Greek_Thessaly + 7.1% Belorussian @ 5.59
    7 92.4% Greek_Thessaly + 7.6% Polish @ 5.6
    8 92.8% Greek_Thessaly + 7.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.6
    9 91.3% Greek_Thessaly + 8.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.6
    10 92.6% Greek_Thessaly + 7.4% Southwest_Russian @ 5.64
    11 93.9% Greek_Thessaly + 6.1% Estonian @ 5.65
    12 88% Greek_Thessaly + 12% Moldavian @ 5.65
    13 92% Greek_Thessaly + 8% South_Polish @ 5.66
    14 93.5% Greek_Thessaly + 6.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.68
    15 92.6% Greek_Thessaly + 7.4% Sardinian @ 5.7
    16 93.8% Greek_Thessaly + 6.2% Erzya @ 5.7
    17 93.1% Greek_Thessaly + 6.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.71
    18 73.7% Greek_Thessaly + 26.3% Bulgarian @ 5.72
    19 94.5% Greek_Thessaly + 5.5% East_Finnish @ 5.75
    20 94.8% Greek_Thessaly + 5.2% Finnish @ 5.81
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    MyOrigins 2.0: 100% Southeast Europe

    Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian

    Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo

    Ydna: J1-ZS241

    Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*


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    Quote Originally Posted by All-In View Post
    thanks for your efforts

    here my results

    (I dont know if you ned the oracle and population stuff too . in case you do I post them)


    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent

    1 West_Asian 36.07
    2 East_Med 30.76
    3 West_Med 8.28
    4 South_Asian 6.82
    5 Red_Sea 6.05
    6 North_Atlantic 4.62
    7 Baltic 2.78
    8 Siberian 1.29
    9 Sub-Saharan 1.28
    10 East_Asian 1.21
    11 Amerindian 0.84
    Only this. Best if it was taken from first site of result, not oracle because ordering is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlukas View Post
    Only this. Best if it was taken from first site of result, not oracle because ordering is different.

    thank you !

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlukas View Post
    With Kelmendasi

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    MyOrigins 2.0: 100% Southeast Europe

    Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian

    Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo

    Ydna: J1-ZS241

    Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*


    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    I don't understand PCA plots exactly, why do I look so distant from populations that are listed as closest to me. The east German makes sense but my second closest population is south Polish but it seems really far from me

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 East_German @ 8.596087
    2 South_Polish @ 8.699465
    3 Hungarian @ 10.036150
    4 Austrian @ 10.831338
    5 Polish @ 11.011834
    6 Southwest_Finnish @ 11.235279
    7 Ukrainian @ 11.254989
    8 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 11.533505
    9 Croatian @ 11.708292
    10 North_Swedish @ 12.414757
    11 Belorussian @ 14.338272
    12 Estonian_Polish @ 14.669163
    13 Russian_Smolensk @ 14.709253
    14 Southwest_Russian @ 15.238096
    15 Finnish @ 15.606089
    16 Moldavian @ 15.725510
    17 Estonian @ 15.991500
    18 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 16.253641
    19 Swedish @ 16.545988
    20 North_German @ 17.119804

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Belorussian +50% West_German @ 5.046282


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Belorussian +25% Southwest_Finnish +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.581734


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