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    because he was awesome:


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    Christianity was developed within the Roman Empire. Jesus was a Hellenistic Jew who his followers made into a God. It was Plato and Socrates that laid the foundations of Christianity along with Pythagoras and other Greek thinkers and this was recognised by the Christian church fathers themselves.

    Judaism was a polytheistic religion for the non-Hellenised Jews up until 200 AD or later, even into Islamic times. Only the Greek translation of the bible has any semblance of monotheism and even then is still accepts the existence of other Gods. The Jews are really worshiping 6 Gods syncretised with Jehovah and the Arabs are worshiping Jehovah and the other 6 Jewish Gods syncretised with Allah. Add Jesus and the God of Plato who John made into the Word and you have the Gods of Christianity as well

    To paraphrase Eusebius how can you justify a religion (Judaism) which elevates an Egyptian Pharaoh with all of his failing to the position of being a God. Instead why not have a religion which elevate Christ the perfect man to the position of God i.e. Christianity !

    Following the doctrine of Eusebius the only way that Christ could be elevated to God status and become a role model for morality is if he was also made the perfect man. Therefore Christ does not endorse the immoral and racist hatred embodied in the Old Testament.

    Since Christ never sinned either against himself of his fellow man he is something to aspired to unlike Mohamed who was a marauding bandit that never repented, never sought forgiveness from the people and never forgave or Moses who was a fugitive murderer who never repented either.

    Christ negates all this. Christians don't have to sacrifice sheep and goats, they don't have to inflict bodily mutilation on themselves and they can eat anything they want. Christ said turn the other cheek, he said there are only 2 commandments. Christ told people that if either should come into conflict it was ROMAN LAW which must prevail. God laws were for the heavens and Caesars for earth. Thus if what the immoral Jewish priests taught or blasphemed about God came into conflict with Roman law or the principles of freedom, democracy and justice these teachings and the basis of these teach were negated.

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    Monotheism only existed in the Platonic tradition. The Persians were dualists and the Egyptians were still polytheists in 600 BC as were the Chinese and the Jews. You go through Islam and you will find it is a dualist not a monotheist religion. Its all about Allah and Satan, and it wasn't very popular which is why Mohammed went about imposing it by the sword. Allah himself according the Mohammed's original version had a wife and two daughters which Mohammed later got rid of.

    There are also the Jinns in the Koran just like Satan so how can it be monotheism when it incorporates Persian dualism and Judeo-Arabian polytheism. The idols Mohammed removed were the equivalent of his families photo album of all of their ancestors and those of their relatives in the tribe he came from.

    There has only ever been one monotheist religion and that is the God of Plato. Read the writing of the philosophers before Socrates. Read Aristotle's Metaphysics for a summary.There is not such place a hell in orthodox Christianity except as a metaphor, nor w is there a Satan, another metaphor. As can be seen orthodoxy veers away from the Persian dualism of Judaism and Islam.

    Read Plato. There are plenty of rational arguments for why to do this and not that. Remember Christianity drew most of its influences from the ancient Greek philosophers and it is only by reason that it was spread.

    Islam provides no rational arguments because Mohammed imposed his religion by force. Force is the only way you can perpetuate a religion with no rationality, and the recent trend for the removal of Christianities original Greek influences is the reason why people are abandoning modern Christianity because instead of appealing to reason it appeals to irrationality, personality and faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer View Post
    Double wrong. Firstly, foreceful Catholicization of Cathars, Bogomils and other Christian heresies was extremely violent. Secondly, Christianity was indeed spread by the sword by Romance and Germanic people to Baltic, Nordic and Balkan people.
    Nonsense. Conversion to Christianity was by reason. The only disinheritance was from the kingdom of heaven. Look at how the Slavs and Vikings were converted, when they were more powerful than the people who converted them.

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    Judaism and Islam are both forms of nationalism. If you read the Quran it is stated everywhere that this is a book for you written in your own language of Arabic. The Jewish religion is about the perpetration genocide and tyranny. The Islamic religion is one about enslavement of the Arabs and welding the sword against everyone else that wants to live a different life.

    These religions are tainted. Christianity is tainted by the Old Testament and by first century Jewish politics. The only untainted religion is that of Plato, since it is not linked to one ethnicity or one land and it is not about forcing conversion. The Christian God is a deified man, the Jewish God is an amalgamation of other Gods and men merged into one and the Arab God is some dead Arab king that had a wife and two daughters that was merged with the Jewish God, whereas Plato's God was purely spiritual.

    Mohammed's original motivation was not God but revenge on his family which expelled him from Mecca. He was a bandit who abandoned his family Gods which he replaced with the principle God in the ancient Arab pantheon and got together a gang of cutthroats that he set against the Meccan trade caravans. He held people captive for ransom and those that were not ransomed were either killed or enslaved.

    In order to keep his cutthroats disciplined he invented a set of rules which he plagiarised from the Jews and that is how Islam was born. When he began subjugated the surrounding villages he let his men take the women for themselves and gave the men the choice of either fighting for him or death, and that is how he assembled an army. It was his successors who made this into a religion. If they'd stuck to the normal Arab custom then Mohammed would have been made into another Arab demi-God to add to the family Kabala in Mecca but Mohammed destroyed that.

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    Jesus was J2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    Nonsense. Conversion to Christianity was by reason. The only disinheritance was from the kingdom of heaven. Look at how the Slavs and Vikings were converted, when they were more powerful than the people who converted them.
    Slavs and Vikings should have remained what they were. Christianity is for Southern Europeans and MENAs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    Christianity was developed within the Roman Empire. Jesus was a Hellenistic Jew who his followers made into a God.



    Raine, why you trolling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    Christianity was developed within the Roman Empire. Jesus was a Hellenistic Jew

    So sorry, but Christ was in fact an Aryan Scythian Catholic. This is attested to by multiple national historians. You do indeed worship a Germanic caveman who was born in a wagon. He also had ties to the Magyars and is equally related to British and Hungarian people.

    https://magyarmegmaradasert.hu/in-en...ythian?start=1


    History provides ample documentation to formulate the assumption that Mary is of Parthian-Scythian descent. Consequently, her son's biological aspect also points to the teaching of a faith and religious morality directly opposed to Jewish ideology. That opposition was apparently felt and resented by the Jews, as Josephus writes: "The Jews always hated the Galileans." Here, our investigation leads us to an interesting twist if we examine a few documents regarding Jesus' background:

    Werner Keller, in his book—released in nearly every language—references this event when he tells us that the magi, traveling to greet Jesus and arriving from the East, came from the Institute of Astronomy in Sippar, Mesopotamia; and that the German scholar, Schnabel, read records that can be connected to Jesus' birth from one of the cuneiform writings found in that ancient city (Y la Biblia tiene razon. Edicion Omega 1957, Page 348-9). At the time of Jesus' birth, the Parthian Empire is at its peak and is Rome's archenemy. The Parthians have defeated the attacking Roman Legions three times. This huge empire stretches from the Euphrates to the Indus, and assures its people's peace and wellbeing for 500 years. For decades before Jesus' birth, Galilee and Samaria have been also under Parthian authority during the governorship of Parthian Prince Adiabene. It is also common knowledge that the Parthian kings rebuilt their destroyed Sumerian cities, and nursed their ancient Sumerian traditions. In light of the above, we can state with certainty that during Jesus' time, Sumerian cuneiform literature was not yet hidden under the sand, and that the main citadels of Sumerian science (Nippur, Ur, Uruk, Kis, Mari, etc.) existed. And one of these was the Institute of Astronomy of Sippar, whence the magi (reportedly) left for their pilgrimage to Jesus.

    Next to Mary's name, we always find the Greek word Parthenos. Many people translate the meaning of this word to Parthian, though, according to students of the Bible, the correct translation from Greek is virgin. Perhaps the correct concept this Greek word defines is "Parthian virgin."

    We read in Acts of Pilate (9.3) that the Jews, fully aware that the Parthians are Rome's archenemies, argue their accusation of Jesus to Pilate stating that the magi came from the East to greet not the king of the Jews but their own king: "We know that Caesar is king, and not Jesus. For assuredly the magi brought gifts to him as to a king."

    Considering the above, the logical conclusion is that:

    Mary could not have been Semite, Hebrew or Jewish either by birth or by rearing, and,
    She could only have been Galilean-Scythian-(See below)-Sumerian.

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    why ya niggas be claiming mexican shit??? Jesus was Mexican, most Jesus in the world are in Mexico
    Jose was also mexican, he was a carpenter working low pay wages
    Maria was a young mexican seńorita riding a donkey, who the hell are stereotyped riding donkeys?? MEXICANS

    the family immigrated illegally to a new country, who has send the most immigrants to America? MEXICO

    so how the fuck is he a middle eastern man??? no such thing a Jose, Maria and Jesus names out there LOL
    smh niggas stay robbing our true history and culture

    Virgin Maria also spoke an indigenous language, she also appeared in Mexico, her homeland, she wasnt speaking no damn middle eastern language

    "Speaking to Juan Diego in his native Nahuatl language (the language of the Aztec empire), the maiden identified herself as the Virgin Mary, "mother of the very true deity""



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