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    Quote Originally Posted by Enflamme View Post
    I wish to order both tomorrow, but i do not know what "version" buy...

    [B][SIZE=2]In your opinion, what is the "best" between these different versions of Y-DNA and mtDNA?
    Y37 for the beginner is good.
    Mt - none. It is waiste of money
    and some people are harming their
    brain. Do not do that test.

    I ask because I would not buy a "superior" version when it is not worth it.
    Superior versions for Y are also good, but it depends
    for what purposes do you want to test yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    You also get "matches maps" like mine:
    But those matches matched thosands of years ago, almost the same as rest of basal hg.
    When I tested first time in stone age, I get a map with five dots on the map of Europe...
    I couldn't even chack their surnames or clade... it wasn't to much informative...


    Mt matches are totally sensless, becasue nothing is binding them. Totally nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post
    But those matches matched thosands of years ago, almost the same as rest of basal hg.
    When I tested first time in stone age, I get a map with five dots on the map of Europe...
    I couldn't even chack their surnames or clade... it wasn't to much informative...


    Mt matches are totally sensless, becasue nothing is binding them. Totally nothing.
    What do you mean with above?

    If more people do the full YDna and mtDna tests, the sub-branches of the Haplogroups and terminal SNPs will become fully known and recorded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbosat View Post
    What do you mean with above?
    This, what I wrote.
    Mt is bind with nothing.
    The same sense has to make a test for haplogroup of the gene for the smallest toe at your left foot.
    Women did change their identity every generation, did not create any entities, nether nations, neither
    tirbes, neither clans, neither families, neither lineages. They never were structurized, and still are not,
    so making that test give none information about anyone.

    More than that, mt can be inherited via men, and in couple of hundrets of generations it
    happend couple of times. The more, if someone belive in thosands of generations - and
    this is the level of history, which you can gain. But even if the mt would be untouched,
    what is very unprobable, then it tells absolutly nothing, nothing practical.

    If more people do the full YDna and mtDna tests, the sub-branches of the Haplogroups and terminal SNPs will become fully known and recorded.
    The same you can tell about haplogroups
    of other chromosomes... and what? The
    very existing of hgs is meaningless.

    Are you testing yourself on hg of chromosome 1? No? Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post
    This, what I wrote.
    Mt is bind with nothing.
    The same sense has to make a test for haplogroup of the gene for the smallest toe at your left foot.
    Women did change their identity every generation, did not create any entities, nether nations, neither
    tirbes, neither clans, neither families, neither lineages. They never were structurized, and still are not,
    so making that test give none information about anyone.

    More than that, mt can be inherited via men, and in couple of hundrets of generations it
    happend couple of times. The more, if someone belive in thosands of generations - and
    this is the level of history, which you can gain. But even if the mt would be untouched,
    what is very unprobable, then it tells absolutly nothing, nothing practical.



    The same you can tell about haplogroups
    of other chromosomes... and what? The
    very existing of hgs is meaningless.

    Are you testing yourself on hg of chromosome 1? No? Why not?
    Cant reply to above.
    Last edited by turbosat; 05-24-2017 at 10:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post
    This, what I wrote.
    Mt is bind with nothing.
    The same sense has to make a test for haplogroup of the gene for the smallest toe at your left foot.
    Women did change their identity every generation, did not create any entities, nether nations, neither
    tirbes, neither clans, neither families, neither lineages. They never were structurized, and still are not,
    so making that test give none information about anyone.

    More than that, mt can be inherited via men, and in couple of hundrets of generations it
    happend couple of times. The more, if someone belive in thosands of generations - and
    this is the level of history, which you can gain. But even if the mt would be untouched,
    what is very unprobable, then it tells absolutly nothing, nothing practical.



    The same you can tell about haplogroups
    of other chromosomes... and what? The
    very existing of hgs is meaningless.

    Are you testing yourself on hg of chromosome 1? No? Why not?

    mtDNa is passed from mother to children, cannot be inherited from men.
    "The very existing of hgs is meaningless. " - not really, HGs are very useful to know. They become much more useful when you know the Haplogroups of the whole population in your area or country of origin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbosat View Post
    mtDNa is passed from mother to children, cannot be inherited from men.
    Yes, it can, It is called Paternal mitochondrial transsmission.
    I wasn't even aware the same as you, until I spoke with a
    genetist who did enlighten me about that stuff. And he is
    even involved in mt-hg research, so he really bother.

    "The very existing of hgs is meaningless. " -
    Please read that again, especially in the context.

    not really, HGs are very useful to know. They become much more useful when you know the Haplogroups of the whole population in your area or country of origin.
    Was I ever saying that isn't? But the very existance of hgs per se is not.
    The sense it has, if it can cofirm some prcatical stuff. Y does it, mt - do
    not, exept large population stuff, and only, when some issuea cannot be
    resovled by other tools (like for example racial case of Finns or Jews), so
    in individual cases is useless, quite opposte than Y, who is usefull always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post
    I've buy this Y-67, it's "good"?

    Do you know of sites where I could transfer my FTDNA results to another site?
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    Correction, i've buy "Y-DNA111"
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