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    Investigators are still piecing together exactly what drove Salman Abedi, the suspected assailant in the recent concert bombing in Manchester, U.K., to kill 22 people and wound dozens more, but early indications suggest he had become a radicalized jihadist. How formerly harmless members of society go on to embrace violent extremist ideologies is a looming question in the world of counterterrorism, yet increasingly so is the problem of “deradicalization,” or convincing people to abandon an extremist mindset.

    Source and full article: http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/...-deradicalized

    Deradicalization programs that might help prevent events like the Manchester concert bombing (above) have been largely untested.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maajid_Nawaz

    People can be deradicalized, but I think that is treating a symptom rather than a cause - eg Saudi funding for Salafism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoLeL View Post
    Investigators are still piecing together exactly what drove Salman Abedi, the suspected assailant in the recent concert bombing in Manchester, U.K., to kill 22 people and wound dozens more, but early indications suggest he had become a radicalized jihadist. How formerly harmless members of society go on to embrace violent extremist ideologies is a looming question in the world of counterterrorism, yet increasingly so is the problem of “deradicalization,” or convincing people to abandon an extremist mindset.

    Source and full article: http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/...-deradicalized

    Deradicalization programs that might help prevent events like the Manchester concert bombing (above) have been largely untested.
    Yes, it's very easy. With two bullets, one in his head and one in his heart and, you have to be sure that the process of deradicalization was successful .

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    These people aren't brainwashed by a cult leader. They're not kept isolated from society at large. They're not kept constantly working on a few hours sleep and eating a diet with very little nutrients to keep them weak in body and mind. They look for a purpose in life because their lives suck. Their lives suck because they suck. So what is offered with 'deradicalization'? They no longer have a purpose in life. They're again reminded that their lives suck and they no longer have someone to blame for it. So what happens next? What purpose do they feel they have in life now?

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    You deradicalize them by not killing hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims overseas over the years. They see the renouncement of killing innocents as a two way street. UK needs to deradicalize itself before the terrorists deradicalize themselves. Sending a bomb written "with love from Manchester" is an insane person expecting different results. The UK trying to act like a tough guy to save face. And the cycle of terrorism repeats.

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    Just start deporting anyone associated with radical groups and problem will be solved in matter of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekarotuinen View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maajid_Nawaz

    People can be deradicalized, but I think that is treating a symptom rather than a cause - eg Saudi funding for Salafism.
    That wiki link is about Quilliam. No wonder Tommy Robinson loves them. He also wants to destroy Islam because the Prophet was what you call an Islamist and he implemented sharia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banned View Post
    You deradicalize them by not killing hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims overseas over the years. They see the renouncement of killing innocents as a two way street. UK needs to deradicalize itself before the terrorists deradicalize themselves. Sending a bomb written "with love from Manchester" is an insane person expecting different results. The UK trying to act like a tough guy to save face. And the cycle of terrorism repeats.
    Not really. They won't stop terrorism because their terrorist activities are beyond the simple revenges. Their terrorism is based on their interpretation of Islam and Quran.

    In their minds: Terrorism = Jihad = Allah's will

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    Maybe, but why bother?

    Why do they deserve to get even more of our resources for the purpose of deradicalization?

    Most countries in the world would just execute them, but we in the West think even the worst of the worst should be saved. What a fucking stupid, self-sabotaging spell we are under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoLeL View Post
    Not really. They won't stop terrorism because their terrorist activities are beyond the simple revenges. Their terrorism is based on their interpretation of Islam and Quran.

    In their minds: Terrorism = Jihad = Allah's will
    True, Jihad is not simply revenge. Jihad will continue until the end of the world. But I'm specifically talking about the killing of women and children. Even though the Prophet forbade it they justify it as an eye for an eye retaliation in many cases. Whether they are right or wrong.

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