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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    These people aren't brainwashed by a cult leader. They're not kept isolated from society at large. They're not kept constantly working on a few hours sleep and eating a diet with very little nutrients to keep them weak in body and mind. They look for a purpose in life because their lives suck. Their lives suck because they suck. So what is offered with 'deradicalization'? They no longer have a purpose in life. They're again reminded that their lives suck and they no longer have someone to blame for it. So what happens next? What purpose do they feel they have in life now?
    Even without the Saudis many would get 'ideas'. It might probably help to ban Saudi influence in the West, but it's not as if there's no internet nowadays. And armed with the Qur'an and Hadith alone you can't deny a visible war-like undercurrent Islam teaches. No propaganda ŕ la 'Islam is peace' and 'moderate normal muslims' can ever change that. Not to mention many learn by example.
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    I think a terrorist should be treated as any other violent criminal. But the great weakness in the West (or Europe) is the principle that all cultures and nationalities are equally valuable and equally welcome. I don't agree with everything he says but I must quote Varg Vikernes:

    "The 'Nazi ghost' has scared millions of Europeans from caring about their blood and homeland for sixty years now, and it is about time we banish this ghost and again start to think and care about the things that (whether we like it or not) are important to us."

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    some former terrorists are now atheists , i have talked to a ex taliban now atheist long time ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by banned View Post
    You deradicalize them by not killing hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims overseas over the years. They see the renouncement of killing innocents as a two way street. UK needs to deradicalize itself before the terrorists deradicalize themselves. Sending a bomb written "with love from Manchester" is an insane person expecting different results. The UK trying to act like a tough guy to save face. And the cycle of terrorism repeats.
    why are they attacking copts though? there is no copt organization that fabricates or launches bombs on muslims
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyladybutterfly View Post
    some former terrorists are now atheists , i have talked to a ex taliban now atheist long time ago
    Still, having become so entranced by one's religion one joins such an organisation makes one fundamentally a person of different morality to me.

    I still wouldn't want him in my society. Becoming an atheist doesn't make one a humanist. And I know of many muslims who call themselves atheists, but retain a muslim morality and eventually return to Islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    Still, having become so entranced by one's religion one joins such an organisation makes one fundamentally a person of different morality to me.

    I still wouldn't want him in my society.
    the brainwashing can be so extreme that a relatively normal person can develop moralities so unusual , once "cured" i guess they return more or less "normal" but with a big sense of guilt for both themselves and others
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyladybutterfly View Post
    the brainwashing can be so extreme that a relatively normal person can develop moralities so unusual , once "cured" i guess they return more or less "normal" but with a big sense of guilt for both themselves and others
    I also remember people who are former muslim tend to look at converts to Christianity as 'traitors'. Some even would snitch on Christians trying to proselytise in an Arab country where it's against the law. Ah well, the bark isn't as bad as the bite I guess and it depends on how aggressive one would define proselytising. I assume in this case.

    The cultural aversions seem very obstinate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    I also remember people who are former muslim tend to look at converts to Christianity as 'traitors'. Some even would snitch on Christians trying to proselytise in an Arab country where it's against the law. Ah well, the bark isn't as bad as the bite I guess and it depends on how aggressive one would define proselytising. I assume in this case.
    what kind of apostates do you know?
    the ones i know would simply consider such people as "cretins" , but they have a lower opinion of muslims
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyladybutterfly View Post
    why are they attacking copts though? there is no copt organization that fabricates or launches bombs on muslims
    Maybe because copts support Sisi and the coup which took place in 2013?

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    Quote Originally Posted by banned View Post
    Maybe because copts support Sisi and the coup which took place in 2013?
    how cant they when in the country there is growing salafism
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