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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Could be Slavic since most clades of R1a in the Balkans are Slavic
    Slavs never settled Sicily directly: any Slavic DNA in Sicily came through Greece first.

    I don't know my subclade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Slavs never settled Sicily directly: any Slavic DNA in Sicily came through Greece first.

    I don't know my subclade.
    Yh true but perhaps that Greek with R1a had Slavic paternal origin as R1a in the Balkans in almost exclusively Slavic in terms of clade, but yet again it could be Germanic and a leftover from the Normans
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Yh true but perhaps that Greek with R1a had Slavic paternal origin as R1a in the Balkans in almost exclusively Slavic in terms of clade, but yet again it could be Germanic and a leftover from the Normans
    Normans would not have been high in R1a considering they were from northern France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Normans would not have been high in R1a considering they were from northern France.
    Yes but they had origin from Scandinavia, some didn't have any Scandinavian origin but a lot did and R1a is pretty common in Scandinavian regions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Yes but they had origin from Scandinavia, some didn't have any Scandinavian origin but a lot did and R1a is pretty common in Scandinavian regions
    R1a distribution in Sicily does not correlate with the pattern of Norman settlement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    R1a distribution in Sicily does not correlate with the pattern of Norman settlement.
    Most probably isn't Norman but you can't say that none of it is Norman. Yes most probably is Byzantine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Most probably isn't Norman but you can't say that none of it is Norman. Yes most probably is Byzantine
    R1a in the Trapani area could be Norman but it is stronger in southeastern Sicily which was Greek.

    I think it is interesting that Norman input in Sicily is over-amplified, but people neglect to discuss it in Lebanese Muslims and other Levantines who acquired such mixture from the Crusades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    R1a in the Trapani area could be Norman but it is stronger in southeastern Sicily which was Greek.

    I think it is interesting that Norman input in Sicily is over-amplified, but people neglect to discuss it in Lebanese Muslims and other Levantines who acquired such mixture from the Crusades.
    True. I was shocked to see how much northern Muslim Lebanese were when compared to the Christians, this is probably due to Crusaders?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    True. I was shocked to see how much northern Muslim Lebanese were when compared to the Christians, this is probably due to Crusaders?
    Yes, which implies Norman ancestry but also potentially French from other regions, British/Irish, or even northern Italian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    There were no "Ancient" Albanians, you dumbass. Waves after waves of Greek tribes colonized Italy since 1700 BC. Italy was ruled by the Cretan king Saturn and was called Saturnia.

    Where are the "Albanian" archeological artifacts in Sicily, any traces of "Albanian" script? nowhere except in your fantasy.
    You stupid goat. You are an asiatic scum. Here they are:


    Arbëreshë one blood one language one besa.

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