Albobalboa With a Reminder of Recent History in Srebrenica

[Gold-Shekel]

Why was it so hard for ex-Yugoslavia nations to get along well with each other? After all they used to be a same country after 1945.

They all have History together, that's why it's so hard.

[Jana]

Why was it so hard for ex-Yugoslavia nations to get along well with each other? After all they used to be a same country after 1945.

Because of lack of common history. Ottoman invasion also made great disturbances to natural ethnic division among people, as huge masses fled/were encouraged to settle to areas previously held by other people. I that that was the root of problem.

[Albobalboa]

Women were raped—with very little exception and following the same matrix. The deciding factor was the soldier’s (im)patience, which meant that some endured their first abuse in their marriage beds, while others suffered the first sessions of molestation by upwards of ten soldiers in camps.

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comm...1995_v_crimes/

Where are the sources for this? For example the numbers on Bosnian, Croatian, and Albanian victims come from unbiased human rights organizations, UN. Where are those numbers from? I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'm just genuinely interested.

[Albobalboa]

"Among all the “beginnings” or “triggers” said to have touched off the wars that have now lasted for a decade, one has become obscured with time. Sometime during the years 1986 and 1987, at a time when relations between “Serbia proper” and Kosova (then still a Yugoslav province with political autonomy within Serbia) were already disturbed but not yet violent, a moral panic took hold in Belgrade about “widespread” Albanian rapes of Serbian women, including Orthodox nuns. The alleged rapes were explained as an attempt by Albanians to terrorize the Serbs and drive them out of Kosova. The emphasis was immediately placed on the ethnic dimension of these rapes; facts were neglected and numbers exaggerated. Although it was rather soon proved that Kosova police had registered only one rape of a Serb woman by an Albanian man,..."

http://www.eurozine.com/muslim-women...lbanian-women/

Glory to the highlanders, the only time you'll see an Albanian fucking a woman is when she begs for it. None of that rape shit, leave it to the horror stories mass-produced by Serboi in order to excuse their crimes of the defenseless.

[The Destroyer]

So one percent of the people, hell one single guy's testimony, is representative of the whole population... Your logic is amazing.

You have been living in diaspora for wayyy too long. About 80% of Bosniaks think like Besim Spahić. Me, you, Hrulj and similar people are a minority. People like us are labeled as "balije", "fascists", and "vehabije" among 80% of Bosniaks.

[Laberia]

You have been living in diaspora for wayyy too long. About 80% of Bosniaks think like Besim Spahić. Me, you, Hrulj and similar people are a minority. People like us are labeled as "balije", "fascists", and "vehabije" among 80% of Bosniaks.

Excuse me for the off-topic. This Besim Spahić is Albanian?

[Böri]

No, majority of them regarde the fall of Yugoslavia as a bad thing. They'd prefer a country shared with Serbs over having an independent country.

+1. Bosniaks majority are Yugo lovers. In Turkey it's even worse. Their diaspora here, when a Turk shares a 'radical, video (material can be pro Bosniaks) from Yugoslav breaking up they start telling how Yugoslavia was good and 'religious biggots and fascists plus nationalists, destroyed Yugoslavia. I doubt many of these who say this have a soul. Bosniensis (fake of the other prominent one here) is still obsessed with Turks as if this is Turks who push his people to be like that

[Albobalboa]

+1. Bosniaks majority are Yugo lovers. In Turkey it's even worse. Their diaspora here, when a Turk shares a 'radical, video (material can be pro Bosniaks) from Yugoslav breaking up they start telling how Yugoslavia was good and 'religious biggots and fascists plus nationalists, destroyed Yugoslavia. I doubt many of these who say this have a soul. Bosniensis (fake of the other prominent one here) is still obsessed with Turks as if this is Turks who push his people to be like that

Yeah they do seem to have a weird obsession with Yugoslavia. Then again many people (even some Albanians) who grew up in Yugoslavia tend to be positive about it when looking back. Bosniaks in the Yugoslav wars fought with more courage than anyone else, so it's not meant as a dislike for them as a people.

[Dzihadovic]

Bosnia was part of Yugoslavia. It's seceded in violation of the Yugoslav constitution after the Muslims who made up 2/3 of the population voted in favour of independence in an illegal referendum and brought about a war with the Serb minority. Serbia did not invade Bosnia and Herzegovina or begin ethnically cleansing it of its majority.

One simple and easily refutable part of what you wrote proves you have no clue what you're talking about.
Bosniaks didn't make up 2/3 of the population.

[Dzihadovic]

"Asked what Bosnians miss about Yugoslavia, Besim Spahic said in a telephone interview that, above all, they miss the stability and harmony of interethnic relations."

Clearly they weren't that stable and harmonic if your neighbors are able to wake up one day and out of the blue want to kill you.
What the fuck is wrong with some people.
It was a facade.
How do they still not get this.
There is nothing to miss.