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Thread: Ancient Egyptian mummy genomes (Schuenemann et al. 2017)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    Do these things look they're capable in creating a civilization?
    Hell no! Most of the blacks that are claiming Egypt are black Americans from the US. They live an identity crisis. They believe they descend from Ancient Egyptians, Moors, Hebrews, Olmec Indians, first Greeks etc. They claim everything but West Africa. It's insane. They are searching for greatness because all they know of their history is slavery, but they look everywhere but where they descend from; West Africa. It's insane how most of them believe this nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isleño View Post
    Yeah, it seems even though Egypt was in Africa, they were not Africans. But makes sense. The Nile valley was directly around the corner from the Gaza Strip. Notice of the three mummies genome-wide tested, two of them had Haplogroup J as a Y-chromosome and one has the Berber Y-chromosome E1b1b1b. You can see in the ADMIXTURE run, they were like Anatolian and Iran_N shifted Natufians. Although the modern Egyptians are their SSA shifted descendants, they are closer to modern Saudis in admixture.
    Modern Saudis and Modern Gazans are closer to Egyptians not the opposite , modern saudis and arabs descended of the Egyptian woman (Hager) , while Gazans have a lot of Egyptian admx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egyptian View Post
    Modern Saudis and Modern Gazans are closer to Egyptians not the opposite , modern saudis and arabs descended of the Egyptian woman (Hager) , while Gazans have a lot of Egyptian admx.
    I was talking about Saudis seem to be the closest modern population to the ancient Egyptians by what the ADMIXTURE 37 result shows. Look at that part in the study.

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    I went to YouTube looking for any video about this study and there is one by Phoenician 7 and the Afrocentrists were are avoiding it like the plague.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isleño View Post
    I was talking about Saudis seem to be the closest modern population to the ancient Egyptians by what the ADMIXTURE 37 result shows. Look at that part in the study.
    parts of saudia were egyptian territories during the families rule in ancient egypt .. Egyptians and Gulf arabs share a lot of commons .. for example these ancient egyptian monuments were found in Saudia 1192 BC



    http://archive.aawsat.com/details.as...article=594333

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egyptian View Post
    parts of saudia were egyptian territories during the families rule in ancient egypt .. Egyptians and Gulf arabs share a lot of commons .. for example these ancient egyptian monuments were found in Saudia 1192 BC



    http://archive.aawsat.com/details.as...article=594333
    I believe you. From what I gather from the study, the closest modern population in admixture percentage to the ancient Egyptians are the Saudis. But the modern Egyptians are the actual descendants of the ancient Egyptians, just they picked up 8% more SSA and a bit more N_Iran, so the extra SSA is pulling them in the direction of Algerians and Tunisians. Maybe the modern Egyptians picked up some Palestinian admixture, but not sure where the 8% SSA came from. Maybe from the Sudan or Nubians that invaded Egypt after the 25th dynasty. What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isleño View Post
    I believe you. From what I gather from the study, the closest modern population in admixture percentage to the ancient Egyptians are the Saudis. But the modern Egyptians are the actual descendants of the ancient Egyptians, just they picked up 8% more SSA and a bit more N_Iran, so the extra SSA is pulling them in the direction of Algerians and Tunisians. Maybe the modern Egyptians picked up some Palestinian admixture, but not sure where the 8% SSA came from. Maybe from the Sudan or Nubians that invaded Egypt after the 25th dynasty. What do you think?
    The SSA admixture in today's Egyptians began in the early days of the Roman empire in Egypt. The real significance of SSA migration to North Africa started in the 7th century AD. Regardless of their recent SSA admixture, Egyptians and Arabians are descended from 2nd wave Eurasian Levantine groups which is why they cluster the closest to one another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    The SSA admixture in today's Egyptians began in the early days of the Roman empire in Egypt. The real significance of SSA migration to North Africa started in the 7th century AD. Regardless of their recent SSA admixture, Egyptians and Arabians are descended from 2nd wave Eurasian Levantine groups which is why they cluster the closest to one another.
    Wait, so you believe Egyptians descend from a second wave and not the ancient Egyptians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isleño View Post
    Wait, so you believe Egyptians descend from a second wave and not the ancient Egyptians?
    No, I'm saying that the ancient Egyptians themselves were descended from the ancient Levantine groups back in ancient times, and today's Egyptians are descended from these ancient Egyptians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    No, I'm saying that the ancient Egyptians themselves were descended from the ancient Levantine groups back in ancient times, and today's Egyptians are descended from these ancient Egyptians.
    Ah, I see. Well I could see how that makes sense. The Ancient Egyptian sample did resemble most the ancient Levantine sample. However, the ancient Egyptian had more Natufian DNA than the ancient Levantine. What is your theory on how the extra N_Iran got into the modern Egyptians and levantines?

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