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    Quote Originally Posted by Isleño View Post
    Ah, I see. Well I could see how that makes sense. The Ancient Egyptian sample did resemble most the ancient Levantine sample. However, the ancient Egyptian had more Natufian DNA than the ancient Levantine. What is your theory on how the extra N_Iran got into the modern Egyptians and levantines?
    Most likely due to the west Asian migrants coming from Anatolia and Iran which changed the genetic structure of the Levant to be more northern than the Natufians from the neolithic period. The ancient Semitic speaker from early Bronze Age, Jordan genetically cluster the closest to today's Arabians and Egyptians than to the genetic isolated groups of the Levant:



    It tells us that the Levantines from the neolithic and early Bronze Age periods were much more similar to today's Egyptians and Arabians, and the genetic structure of the Levant has changed due to the admixture coming from Anatolia that made them more northern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Confirms what everyone who wasn't a retarded afro-nut already knew. Logically this should put an end to afrocentrist claims on ancient Egypt once and for all but they'll probably just call it white supremacist propaganda like everything else that proves them wrong.
    It kind of is a white supremacist agenda
    We found the ancient Egyptian samples falling distinct from modern Egyptians, and closer towards Near Eastern and European samples (Fig. 4a, Supplementary Fig. 3, Supplementary Table 5). In contrast, modern Egyptians are shifted towards sub-Saharan African populations.
    In that paragraph, they try to make it sound like ancient Egyptians were closer to modern Europeans than they are to modern Egyptians when that's false



    I see this pattern a lot in genetic studies. They randomly compare ancient non european people to European people and then say something like "_ was closer to modern Europeans" to make it sound like said population was closer to Europeans, when what the truth is is that said population was more European shifted, but still closest to said modern population..

    Afrocentrists aren't the only "we wuz kangz people" out there, white people are just as guilty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    Do these things look they're capable in creating a civilization?
    Those are nilotes. East africans are mixed with them, not west africans. You are related to them.


    https://m.liveleak.com/view?i=163_1406607204





    You are much more civilzed. You pour the urine in a cup first. Lol....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myanthropologies View Post
    We found the ancient Egyptian samples falling distinct from modern Egyptians, and closer towards Near Eastern and European samples (Fig. 4a, Supplementary Fig. 3, Supplementary Table 5). In contrast, modern Egyptians are shifted towards sub-Saharan African populations.

    In that paragraph, they try to make it sound like ancient Egyptians were closer to modern Europeans than they are to modern Egyptians when that's false


    I see this pattern a lot in genetic studies. They randomly compare ancient non european people to European people and then say something like "_ was closer to modern Europeans" to make it sound like said population was closer to Europeans, when what the truth is is that said population was more European shifted, but still closest to said modern population..

    Afrocentrists aren't the only "we wuz kangz people" out there, white people are just as guilty.
    I think you interpreted the quote wrong. What I took from that same paragraph was that the samples were clustering away from modern Egyptian samples and toward (in the direction of) Near East and European populations on a pca plot. Going toward the near east, the Europeans are located in the same direction of Near East coming from the position of where modern Egyptians were being pulled toward because of the 8% more SSA. They weren't saying that Ancient Egyptians are closer to Europeans than modern Egyptians, they were saying that the ancients were clustering toward (in the direction of) the Near East and Europe, meaning in that direction. I think it's a bit much to claim a conspiracy theory like a white supremacist agenda because you interpreted it wrong. No offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isleño View Post
    I think you interpreted the quote wrong. What I took from that same paragraph was that the samples were clustering away from modern Egyptian samples and toward (in the direction of) Near East and European populations on a pca plot. Going toward the near east, the Europeans are located in the same direction of Near East coming from the position of where modern Egyptians were being pulled toward because of the 8% more SSA. They weren't saying that Ancient Egyptians are closer to Europeans than modern Egyptians, they were saying that the ancients were clustering toward (in the direction of) the Near East and Europe, meaning in that direction. I think it's a bit much to claim a conspiracy theory like a white supremacist agenda because you interpreted it wrong. No offense.
    Near easterners and Europeans cluster to one another in the global PCA charts, and yes, it does shows that the ancient Egyptians cluster more closer to the near eastern population due to them in not having SSA admixture as today's Egyptians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    Near easterners and Europeans cluster to one another in the global PCA charts, and yes, it does shows that the ancient Egyptians cluster more closer to the near eastern population due to them in not having SSA admixture as today's Egyptians.
    Yes, that's correct. In an active world pca map you can zoom out and the Near East and Europe become one cluster. Only when you zoom in do they break apart. It's no secret that the closest genetic population to Europeans are the Near Easterners (and the Caucasus). So what the study was saying was not that the ancients were more like Europeans, but were falling distinct from the modern Egyptians clustering in the direction of the Near East and Europe. Yes, I agree with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    Most likely due to the west Asian migrants coming from Anatolia and Iran which changed the genetic structure of the Levant to be more northern than the Natufians from the neolithic period. The ancient Semitic speaker from early Bronze Age, Jordan genetically cluster the closest to today's Arabians and Egyptians than to the genetic isolated groups of the Levant:



    It tells us that the Levantines from the neolithic and early Bronze Age periods were much more similar to today's Egyptians and Arabians, and the genetic structure of the Levant has changed due to the admixture coming from Anatolia that made them more northern.
    A couple screen shots from a video from YouTube I wanted to show you of past studies that were reporting the same things were finding now




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    Quote Originally Posted by Isleño View Post
    A couple screen shots from a video from YouTube I wanted to show you of past studies that were reporting the same things were finding now
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    Yes, It pretty much on what we have been saying about Egypt all along, but Afrocentric lunatics still deny all of this.

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    Watch this video, its debunking the Afrocentric claims against the new study by Shuenemann et al. 2017



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    Yes, It pretty much on what we have been saying about Egypt all along, but Afrocentric lunatics still deny all of this.
    Check out this video, its about the Natufian findings by Lazaridis et al 2016 in accordance with the Ancient Egyptian findings of Shuenemann et al. 2017

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