Jews in the Old South

[Smeagol]

Andrew Hamilton has a new essay at Counter-Currents about the surprising relative lack of anti-Semitism in the Old South.

This paradox troubles some White Nationalists, especially those of the more National Socialist intellectual bent, who have traditionally laid all of America’s racial problems at the doorstep of the Jew – why was the most intensely “racist” section of the United States so oblivious to the Jewish Question?

It is a Saturday evening and I am about to engage in some weekend reveling, but the short answer is that Southern Jewry was not perceived as an antagonistic element in our society because they tended to claim whiteness and embrace slavery, segregation, and white supremacy.

Jews like Judah Benjamin or David Levy Yulee (both resigned their Senate seats after Florida and Louisiana seceded in 1861) were pillars of the Southern establishment. They were not the Chuck Schumers or Barney Franks of their day by any stretch of the imagination.

The mortal threat to the Southern social order emanated from the Yankee in the Northeast and Upper Midwest and was known at the time as “Black Republicanism” which meant the destruction of slavery, the overthrow of white supremacy, and the implementation of “social equality” between the races which would degrade the White man by lowering him to the level of the negro.

The menace of “Black Republicanism” was not associated with the Jew because it was Yankees like John Brown, William Lloyd Garrison, Thaddeus Stevens and Charles Sumner who were pushing so hard for it – and significantly, after the war, succeeded in imposing that ideal on the South and America.

In the 1880s and 1890s, Ashkenazi Jews from the ghettos of Central and Eastern Europe who were immersed in the radical leftwing politics of Germany, Poland, and Russia began to flood into the Northern states in huge numbers. From those Jews developed what is commonly known as the “Jewish Question” in the twentieth century. The Sephardic Jewish experience in the American South, Caribbean, and Latin America had been quite different.

Whereas racial theories had been associated with anti-Semitism and oppression of the Jews and later genocide in Central and Eastern Europe, the Sephardic Jews in the Western Hemisphere had successfully claimed whiteness and blended in with the White population and had little incentive to antagonize them by fomenting social revolution among the blacks.

That’s why the Jewish Question wasn’t a subject of much interest in America until the late nineteenth/early twentieth century when the radicalized leftwing Jews of the Polish and Russian ghettos began their exodus to the American North.

The long answer will have to wait for another day.

http://www.occidentaldissent.com/201...anti-semitism/

[Kamal900]

Sephardic and Othrodox Jews tend to be much more conservative than their Ashekanazi Liberal counterparts that came into the country in the early 20th century

[Smeagol]

Sephardic and Othrodox Jews tend to be much more conservative than their Ashekanazi Liberal counterparts that came into the country in the early 20th century

Yeah they've been here since the earliest days of Colonization and the vast majority assimilated and became good Americans. This obviously wasn't the case with a large part of the Ashkenazi population.

[Kamal900]

Yeah they've been here since the earliest days of Colonization and the vast majority assimilated and became good Americans. This obviously wasn't the case with a large part of the Ashkenazi population.

Just makes me wonder if there are any White Americans in the South that have Jewish ancestry from the 19th century. Anyway, I want to ask you something. Was the intermarriage between Levantine Christians and Whites legal under the Jim Crow laws? I have heard a case where the judge proclaimed the marriage between a Levantine Christian woman and a White American as legal or something.

[Smeagol]

Just makes me wonder if there are any White Americans in the South that have Jewish ancestry from the 19th century. Anyway, I want to ask you something. Was the intermarriage between Levantine Christians and Whites legal under the Jim Crow laws? I have heard a case where the judge proclaimed the marriage between a Levantine Christian woman and a White American as legal or something.

Yeah Levantine Christians were considered white during the jim crow era. Originally there was debate about what to consider them when they started emigrating from the Ottoman Empire during the late 19th/early 20th century and I don't remember all the history behind it but eventually a court decided they were white in the early 1900s. Some light blacks who wanted to pass for white but were still swarthy and didn't look WASP even claimed to be Syrian to explain their somewhat exotic looks.

[Kamal900]

Yeah Levantine Christians were considered white during the jim crow era. Originally there was debate about what to consider them when they started emigrating from the Ottoman Empire during the late 19th/early 20th century and I don't remember all the history behind it but eventually a court decided they were white in the early 1900s. Some light blacks who wanted to pass for white but were still swarthy and didn't look WASP even claimed to be Syrian to explain their somewhat exotic looks.

Yeah, I was wondering about that because I have paternal relatives that migrated to America in the 1940's, and they are very admixed with the White Americans in Detroit before they migrated with the Whites to the suburbs during the riots by Blacks in the 1960's. My family still have contacts with them even though they look White and don't speak Arabic all that much.

[RN97]

Just makes me wonder if there are any White Americans in the South that have Jewish ancestry from the 19th century. Anyway, I want to ask you something. Was the intermarriage between Levantine Christians and Whites legal under the Jim Crow laws? I have heard a case where the judge proclaimed the marriage between a Levantine Christian woman and a White American as legal or something.

There seemed to be two extremes when it came to racial ideas in the US. One were that basically every caucasoid were white or "aryan" and these folks would even consider Afghans as white while the other opinion (which actually were mostly popular in the early 1900's) were nordicists that only considered northern European white or at least they were the only "Pure" whites.

[Kamal900]

There seemed to be two extremes when it came to racial ideas in the US. One were that basically every caucasoid were white or "aryan" and these folks would even consider Afghans as white while the other opinion (which actually were mostly popular in the early 1900's) were nordicists that only considered northern European white or at least they were the only "Pure" whites.

Yeah, there is no actual consensus when it comes to those things really.

[Smeagol]

There seemed to be two extremes when it came to racial ideas in the US. One were that basically every caucasoid were white or "aryan" and these folks would even consider Afghans as white while the other opinion (which actually were mostly popular in the early 1900's) were nordicists that only considered northern European white or at least they were the only "Pure" whites.

It wasn't exactly that they considered Nordics to be the only whites, it's that they considered them to be at the top of the white hierarchy and that the character of the United States was essentially Northwestern European.

[Bobby Martnen]

Yeah, I was wondering about that because I have paternal relatives that migrated to America in the 1940's, and they are very admixed with the White Americans in Detroit before they migrated with the Whites to the suburbs during the riots by Blacks in the 1960's. My family still have contacts with them even though they look White and don't speak Arabic all that much.

What religion are they now?