Byzantine empire was Greek?

[Lavrentis]

Laberian bro even justified albanian conversion to islam by blaming it on Greeks. lmao what the actual fuck?

He blames Greeks for everything. I wonder what his excuses are for the fact that Albanians were always in high Ottoman posts. But from what I see on this sub, Albanians take pride in it.

[Laberia]

First of all, I already know what my country is, are you that stupid that you thought I claimed parts of other countries just because they belonged to the Eastern Roman Empire?

You claimed to be the legittime succesors of the Roman Empire, i posted the map of this Empire.

The last Dynasties of the Byzantine Empire were Greek, or at least, predominantly Greek.

Excuse me, but this is no more a serious discussion from your side.

The Orthodox Church as a whole didn't proclaim the Ottoman Empire as a succesor to the Eastern Roman Empire, your source states that the Ottomans fought a lunatic anti-unionist priest and told him to proclaim the Ottomans as succesors of the Eastern Roman Empire.

The enemy of the Ottomans were the Catholics. The wars of Ottomans in Europe, basically were against the Catholics, saved few cases of Orthodox fighting the Ottomans. And in many cases this Orthodox were Albanians, even in your country the most important battles were Ottomans against the Albanians. There are no battle of greeks against the Ottomans, there is an entire thread, 60 pages, ZERO battles:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...toman-invasion
So, this is not a discussion about a lunatic person. Here we are talking about important things.

Also the West wasn't hateful at all, during the Venetian-Ottoman wars and generally in the European-Ottoman wars, the Greeks always took the European side. While the Albanians were in the Ottoman ranks and in high Ottoman posts, planning to invade Europe and bring the misery the Ottomans brought to Greece.

Common dude, better the turban of the Sultan then the tiara of Pope.
Albanians with their resistance, saved the West Europe from the Ottoman invasion. This is history.

[Journeyman26]

lol a thread like this attracts Laberia like flies to shit. Before I even clicked on it I knew he would be balls deep in it... was not disappointed.

[Laberia]

Laberian bro even justified albanian conversion to islam by blaming it on Greeks. lmao what the actual fuck?

I am not blaming greeks, i am blaming the Patriarchate of Istanbul in South and the servian Church in North. I have explained this once, the first reason why the Albanians started to convert in Islam was because in this way Albanians preserved their ethnic identity. The conversion started first among the Catholics in North Albania. This people were under the pressure of the servian Church. But this is another discussion.

[Lavrentis]

You claimed to be the legittime succesors of the Roman Empire, i posted the map of this Empire.

Excuse me, but this is no more a serious discussion from your side.

The enemy of the Ottomans were the Catholics. The wars of Ottomans in Europe, basically were against the Catholics, saved few cases of Orthodox fighting the Ottomans. And in many cases this Orthodox were Albanians, even in your country the most important battles were Ottomans against the Albanians. There are no battle of greeks against the Ottomans, there is an entire thread, 60 pages, ZERO battles:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...toman-invasion
So, this is not a discussion about a lunatic person. Here we are talking about important things.



Common dude, better the turban of the Sultan then the tiara of Pope.
Albanians with their resistance, saved the West Europe from the Ottoman invasion. This is history.

Just because I say that Greece is succesor of the Eastern Roman Empire doesn't mean that I want parts of other countries.

Anyway, I'm not going to continue this conversation with you. You seem like a weird guy to talk with about history.

[Voskos]

He blames Greeks for everything. I wonder what his excuses are for the fact that Albanians were always in high Ottoman posts. But from what I see on this sub, Albanians take pride in it.

liapides, toskides= aderfia twn ellhnwn . ghegs,chams,vlachofonoi alvanoi= an8ellines oi perissoteroi, oso ki an to arnountai

[Akragas]

The greek and Byzintine history of Southern Italy and Sicily. Greek presence in Italy begins with the migrations of the Greek Diaspora in the 8th century BC, continuing down to the present time. There is a linguistic minority known as the Griko people, who live in the Southern Italian regions of Sicily, Calabria (Province of Reggio Calabria) and Apulia, especially the peninsula of Salento, within the old Magna Graecia region, who speak a distinctive dialect of Greek called Griko. They are believed to be remnants of the ancient and medieval Greek communities, who have lived in the south of Italy and Sicily for centuries. Alongside this group, a smaller number of more recent migrants from Greece lives in Italy, forming an expatriate community in the country. Today many Greeks in Southern Italy follow Italian customs and culture.
The migration of Byzantine Greek scholars and other emigres from Byzantium during the decline of the Byzantine empire (1203–1453) and mainly after the fall of Constantinople in 1453 until the 16th century, is considered by modern scholars as crucial in the revival of Greek and Roman studies, arts and sciences, and subsequently in the development of Renaissance humanism. These emigres were grammarians, humanists, poets, writers, printers, lecturers, musicians, astronomers, architects, academics, artists, scribes, philosophers, scientists, politicians and theologians. For example, Archimedes of Syracuse Sicily was a Greek mathematician, physicist, engineer, inventor, and astronomer. In addition, Pindar a Greek poet and citizen of Akragas Scily.
The Griko people are a population group in Italy of Greek origin which still exists today in the Italian regions of Sicily, Calabria and Apulia. The Griko people traditionally spoke the Griko language, a form of the Greek language combining ancient Doric and Byzantine Greek elements. Some believe that the origins of the Griko language may ultimately be traced to the colonies of Magna Graecia. Greeks were the dominant population element of some regions in the south of Italy, especially Calabria, the Salento, parts of Lucania and Sicily until the 12th century. Over the past centuries the Griko have been heavily influenced by the Catholic Church and Latin culture and as a result many Griko have become largely assimilated into mainstream Italian culture, though once numerous, the Griko are now limited, most of them having become absorbed into the surrounding Italian element. The Griko language is severely endangered due to language shift towards Italian and large-scale internal migration to the cities in recent decades.

[blogen]

Not, not Greek. The Byzantine empire was absolute multiethnic, except the last centuries.

[Akragas]

The Byzantine empire was Greek.

[Ice]

It was albanian.