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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Why?? they were colonized and ruled by other people and in the case of Kazhaks still happens in some areas.
    Kazakhstan is independent since 1991. Show me one independent Amerindian country with majority native Amerindian as official state language.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    That sounds very cuck. Conqueror rules, remember?
    Turks have a long tradition with Sino-Tibetan peoples. For a very long time they lived in coexistence in that area.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    Empires happen bro.


    "You mad bro?" - future Han Chinese emperor of Japan and Korea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    Kazakhstan is independent since 1991. Show me one independent Amerindian country with majority native Amerindian as official state language.
    Bolivia.

    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    Empires happen bro.
    Empires impose their languages. Since always!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Bolivia.
    Peru would have been a better choice. Anayway, and now show me one independent Amerindian country where a native Amerindian language is the only official state language. there is none 68% of Bolivia is Mestizo btw

    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Empires impose their languages. Since always!
    Soviet Empire has fallen. Kazakhs won their democracy. Since 1991.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeltoqsan


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Bolivia.



    Empires impose their languages. Since always!
    Yes, obviously Uighurs and Tibetans need to learn Mandarin to function as PRC citizens as they already do. But Hans in Xinjiang/Tibet should also learn local languages to bond with the local identity and it would actually help in assimilating those regions into the PRC as the natives would not feel as threatened if they see their cultures/languages being respected by the majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    No, Russians are the masters in Caucasus, so they should not learn another language different than the own.
    It is like if Spaniards had learned Amerindian languages when they ruled America, a total nonsense.
    Kazakstan is not in caucasus but in central asia.
    Also Kazakstan is independant from russia.



    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    That sounds very cuck. Conqueror rules, remember?
    The problem when you support blindly the law of the strongest, you must assume the same logic in all situation.
    What would provide Kazak from slaughter the russian minority? (except russian state)



    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    If you want to respect the local culture, dont invade them, damn.
    Yeap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    That sounds very cuck. Conqueror rules, remember?
    Chinese are conquerors, but also diplomats. They conquer via inducing respect for their nation.

    I agree that respecting the history of the land is the best route toward lasting stability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    Chinese are conquerors, but also diplomats. They conquer via inducing respect for their nation.

    I agree that respecting the history of the land is the best route toward lasting stability.
    Governing an empire is different than governing a small ethno-nationalist state. When you govern an empire, you deal with many different cultures. To have long and lasting cohesion and stability, these peoples have to be persuaded to pay allegiance to the empire. Hence it is critical that certain important ethnic groups that occupy vast regions which are critical to the empire's well being are given leeway and their loyalty needs to be won.

    I think the PRC does this half the way, but they fail miserably on other fronts, mainly because Han Chinese are naturally chauvinistic and ethnocentric.

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    Same goes for every minority, they must learn the language of the majority. Put aside everything, they should do this for practical reasons.

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