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    Central_Dutch 69.9
    North_Dutch 18.2
    Pl_north 11.8
    SE_England 0.0
    England_Cumberland 0.0

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    Central_Dutch 59.85
    North_Dutch 21.75
    Pl_north 11.25
    SE_England 3.05
    England_Cumberland 3.05
    Brahmin_Bihari 0.65
    Norway 0.20
    Denmark 0.15

    "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Central_Dutch North_Dutch SE_England England_Cumberland
    37.65696 38.03068 38.33145 38.33145
    Denmark German_North Norway Scotland
    38.52264 39.00520 39.11943 39.59199
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    Admix4

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Central_Dutch @ 37,656768
    2 North_Dutch @ 38,030701
    3 SE_England @ 38,12457
    4 England_Cumberland @ 38,12457
    5 Denmark @ 38,522565
    6 German_North @ 39,005066
    7 Norway @ 39,119391
    8 Scotland @ 39,584447
    9 British_mixed @ 39,961954
    10 Welsh @ 40,011399
    11 Sweden @ 40,139379
    12 Northern_Ireland @ 40,278987
    13 NW-England @ 41,397129
    14 South_Dutch @ 41,440778
    15 NE-England @ 41,659557
    16 Orcadian @ 41,681264
    17 Ireland @ 41,758003
    18 German_West @ 41,822813
    19 German_East @ 42,037719
    20 SW-England @ 42,310242
    336 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch @ 37,656768
    2 Central_Dutch+North_Dutch @ 37,673682
    3 Central_Dutch+SE_England @ 37,769133
    4 Central_Dutch+England_Cumberland @ 37,769133
    5 North_Dutch+SE_England @ 37,822945
    6 North_Dutch+England_Cumberland @ 37,822945
    7 Central_Dutch+Denmark @ 37,954759
    8 North_Dutch+North_Dutch @ 38,030701
    9 SE_England+Denmark @ 38,090997
    10 Denmark+England_Cumberland @ 38,090997
    11 Central_Dutch+Norway @ 38,113705
    12 SE_England+SE_England @ 38,12457
    13 SE_England+England_Cumberland @ 38,12457
    14 England_Cumberland+England_Cumberland @ 38,12457
    15 SE_England+Norway @ 38,172873
    16 Norway+England_Cumberland @ 38,172873
    17 North_Dutch+Denmark @ 38,200351
    18 German_North+Central_Dutch @ 38,244666
    19 German_North+North_Dutch @ 38,27468
    20 North_Dutch+Norway @ 38,399811
    56616 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Central_Dutch +25% Central_Dutch +25% North_Dutch @ 37,622467
    2 50% Central_Dutch +25% North_Dutch +25% Pl_north @ 37,65479
    3 50% Central_Dutch +25% North_Dutch +25% SE_England @ 37,657317
    4 50% Central_Dutch +25% North_Dutch +25% England_Cumberland @ 37,657317
    5 50% Central_Dutch +25% Central_Dutch +25% Pl_north @ 37,658092
    6 50% Central_Dutch +25% North_Dutch +25% North_Dutch @ 37,673682
    7 50% Central_Dutch +25% Central_Dutch +25% SE_England @ 37,682321
    8 50% Central_Dutch +25% Central_Dutch +25% England_Cumberland @ 37,682321
    9 50% Central_Dutch +25% SE_England +25% Pl_north @ 37,712862
    10 50% Central_Dutch +25% Pl_north +25% England_Cumberland @ 37,712862
    11 50% North_Dutch +25% Central_Dutch +25% SE_England @ 37,717744
    12 50% North_Dutch +25% Central_Dutch +25% England_Cumberland @ 37,717744
    13 50% North_Dutch +25% Central_Dutch +25% Pl_north @ 37,736892
    14 50% SE_England +25% Central_Dutch +25% North_Dutch @ 37,753438
    15 50% England_Cumberland +25% Central_Dutch +25% North_Dutch @ 37,753438
    16 50% Central_Dutch +25% SE_England +25% SE_England @ 37,769133
    17 50% Central_Dutch +25% SE_England +25% England_Cumberland @ 37,769133
    18 50% Central_Dutch +25% England_Cumberland +25% England_Cumberland @ 37,769133
    19 50% Central_Dutch +25% Central_Dutch +25% Denmark @ 37,771502
    20 50% Central_Dutch +25% North_Dutch +25% Denmark @ 37,794993
    18966360 iterations.

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+North_Du tch @ 37,622467
    2 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+Pl_north @ 37,65479
    3 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Central_ Dutch @ 37,656768
    4 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+SE_England @ 37,657317
    5 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+England_Cu mberland @ 37,657317
    6 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Pl_north @ 37,658092
    7 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_Dutc h @ 37,673682
    8 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+SE_Engla nd @ 37,682321
    9 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+England_ Cumberland @ 37,682321
    10 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+SE_England+Pl_north @ 37,712862
    11 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Pl_north+England_Cumbe rland @ 37,712862
    12 Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_Dutch+SE_England @ 37,717744
    13 Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_Dutch+England_Cumb erland @ 37,717744
    14 Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+SE_England+Pl_north @ 37,718824
    15 Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+Pl_north+England_Cumberl and @ 37,718824
    16 Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Pl_north @ 37,736892
    17 Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+SE_England+SE_England @ 37,753438
    18 Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+SE_England+England_Cumbe rland @ 37,753438
    19 Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+England_Cumberland+Engla nd_Cumberland @ 37,753438
    20 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+SE_England+SE_England @ 37,769133
    21 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+SE_England+England_Cum berland @ 37,769133
    22 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+England_Cumberland+Eng land_Cumberland @ 37,769133
    23 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Denmark @ 37,771502
    24 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+Denmark @ 37,794993
    25 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+SE_England+Denmark @ 37,803211
    26 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Denmark+England_Cumber land @ 37,803211
    27 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+SE_England+Pl_north @ 37,810024
    28 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Pl_north+England_Cumberlan d @ 37,810024
    29 Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_Dutch @ 37,810065
    30 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Norway @ 37,81484
    31 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+SE_England+SE_England @ 37,822945
    32 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+SE_England+England_Cumberl and @ 37,822945
    33 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+England_Cumberland+England _Cumberland @ 37,822945
    34 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+SE_England+Norway @ 37,827197
    35 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Norway+England_Cumberl and @ 37,827197
    36 Central_Dutch+SE_England+SE_England+Pl_north @ 37,828734
    37 Central_Dutch+SE_England+Pl_north+England_Cumberla nd @ 37,828734
    38 Central_Dutch+Pl_north+England_Cumberland+England_ Cumberland @ 37,828734
    39 Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+SE_England+Denmark @ 37,835912
    40 Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+Denmark+England_Cumberla nd @ 37,835912
    540597876 iterations.


    Gaussian method.
    Noise dispersion set to 0,130062

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Denmark @ 6,181107
    2 Norway @ 6,223755
    3 British_mixed @ 6,23977
    4 Sweden @ 6,332509
    5 Central_Dutch @ 6,343234
    6 Scotland @ 6,344682
    7 FR_Bretagne @ 6,347855
    8 Sweden_north @ 6,362775
    9 SE_England @ 6,404108
    10 England_Cumberland @ 6,404108
    11 Welsh @ 6,410632
    12 German_North @ 6,468155
    13 Orcadian @ 6,491308
    14 SW-England @ 6,528175
    15 North_Dutch @ 6,534844
    16 Pl_north @ 6,542567
    17 NW-England @ 6,585247
    18 Northern_Ireland @ 6,592594
    19 Ireland @ 6,705535
    20 German_East @ 6,736969
    336 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 SE_England+Pl_north @ 6,018077 suprisingly
    2 Pl_north+England_Cumberland @ 6,018077
    3 North_Dutch+Pl_north @ 6,076594
    4 Denmark+Pl_north @ 6,10545
    5 British_mixed+Pl_north @ 6,111047
    6 Scotland+Pl_north @ 6,128457
    7 Pl_north+Welsh @ 6,155176
    8 SE_England+Pl_Kashubians @ 6,15541
    9 Pl_Kashubians+England_Cumberland @ 6,15541
    10 SE_England+PL_Wielkopolska @ 6,170843
    11 PL_Wielkopolska+England_Cumberland @ 6,170843
    12 Central_Dutch+Pl_north @ 6,171598
    13 Denmark+Denmark @ 6,181107
    14 North_Dutch+Pl_Kashubians @ 6,181728
    15 British_mixed+Denmark @ 6,183337
    16 Denmark+Norway @ 6,192168
    17 British_mixed+Norway @ 6,194602
    18 SE_England+Norway @ 6,198321
    19 Norway+England_Cumberland @ 6,198321
    20 North_Dutch+PL_Wielkopolska @ 6,207008
    56616 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% SE_England +25% SE_England +25% Pl_north @ 5,999317
    2 50% SE_England +25% Pl_north +25% England_Cumberland @ 5,999317
    3 50% England_Cumberland +25% SE_England +25% Pl_north @ 5,999317
    4 50% England_Cumberland +25% Pl_north +25% England_Cumberland @ 5,999317
    5 50% SE_England +25% Pl_north +25% Pl_north @ 6,018077
    6 50% Pl_north +25% SE_England +25% England_Cumberland @ 6,018077
    7 50% Pl_north +25% England_Cumberland +25% England_Cumberland @ 6,018077
    8 50% SE_England +25% Denmark +25% Pl_north @ 6,019726
    9 50% England_Cumberland +25% Denmark +25% Pl_north @ 6,019726
    10 50% SE_England +25% British_mixed +25% Pl_north @ 6,022452
    11 50% England_Cumberland +25% British_mixed +25% Pl_north @ 6,022452
    12 50% SE_England +25% SE_England +25% PL_Sudovia @ 6,031942
    13 50% SE_England +25% PL_Sudovia +25% England_Cumberland @ 6,031942
    14 50% England_Cumberland +25% SE_England +25% PL_Sudovia @ 6,031942
    15 50% England_Cumberland +25% PL_Sudovia +25% England_Cumberland @ 6,031942
    16 50% SE_England +25% Scotland +25% Pl_north @ 6,034708
    17 50% England_Cumberland +25% Scotland +25% Pl_north @ 6,034708
    18 50% Denmark +25% SE_England +25% Pl_north @ 6,038603
    19 50% Denmark +25% Pl_north +25% England_Cumberland @ 6,038603
    20 50% British_mixed +25% SE_England +25% Pl_north @ 6,041131
    18966360 iterations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    K36 results of another Wielbark sample, Mas_5 from Masłomęcz:

    North_Sea42.74
    Central_Euro24.69
    Eastern_Euro14.69
    French13.58
    East_Balkan2.19
    Italian1.31
    Volga-Ural0.80

    Highest North_Sea ever seen (and remember this is K36, not K15).
    You should put this guy in the PCA , I'm curious with that high amount of north sea where hell stand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    K36 results of another Wielbark sample, Mas_5 from Masłomęcz:

    North_Sea 42.74
    Central_Euro 24.69
    Eastern_Euro 14.69
    French 13.58
    East_Balkan 2.19
    Italian 1.31
    Volga-Ural 0.80

    Highest North_Sea ever seen (and remember this is K36, not K15).
    How many SNPs were covered? Aren't many of these low coverage samples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunhetaDeBacalhau View Post
    How many SNPs were covered? Aren't many of these low coverage samples?
    Mas_5 - 14984 sNP. Of course low but not biased. In this case we have always substantial Negro admixture
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlukas View Post
    Mas_5 - 14984 sNP. Of course low but not biased. In this case we have always substantial Negro admixture
    Unsurprisingly few samples believed to be Thracians turn out 25% SSA, I just wonder how many snps were available, I assume very few because they possibly were damaged or contaminated like the samples from Poland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlukas View Post
    Mas_5 - 14984 sNP. Of course low but not biased. In this case we have always substantial Negro admixture
    Is the guy with a lot of North Sea the one from the culture that is supposed to have Goths? Have you guys found the Goths?

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    Here is what Generalissimo wrote about this "surprising" SSA admixture in ancient samples:

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...ng-soon/page57

    The Sub-Saharan noise is more linked to post-mortem damage than to the lack of markers or even to low depth coverage, so samples that have not been UDG treated, for example, will show a lot of noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunhetaDeBacalhau View Post
    Is the guy with a lot of North Sea the one from the culture that is supposed to have Goths? Have you guys found the Goths?
    MAs_5 (Maslomecz Wielbark) doesn't have any negro Maybe I wasn't clear.

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    North_Sea 42.74
    Central_Euro 24.69
    Eastern_Euro 14.69
    French 13.58
    East_Balkan 2.19
    Italian 1.31
    Volga-Ural 0.80
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